Completers and Wage Progression: Salary Surfer
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Completers and and Wage Wage Progression: Salary Surfer Patrick Perry California Community Colleges Chancellor’s Office
Greetings from Jerry, Anne and Sutter!
California Community Colleges •
Wage Data: –
We have it!!!!!!
Methodology •
We are looking at wage outcomes for CCC award recipients (AA, AS, certificates down to 12 units) –
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Not looking at 4-yr transfers or non-completers (yet)
What is the wage return of the “terminal” CCC
degree?
Methodology •
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Start with all award recipients in any given year. Remove from dataset any of the following if they occurred after date of award: –
Still enrolled anywhere in CCC system
–
Transferred to any other institution outside system
Methodology •
Match remaining non-enrolled/nontransferred award recipients by SSN with EDD quarterly wage records. –
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Sum of all quarterly wages = annual wage (fiscal/academic (fiscal/academic year= Q3-Q4-Q1-Q2) If any quarter in a calendar year has $1 or more of wages, this is counted (need just one quarter’ quarter ’s
worth of wages to be counted).
Reporting •
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We look at wages between 2 years prior through 5 years after date of award. Median (not average) wages reported at various time intervals. All wages adjusted to CA CPI (current dollars.) Minimum n=10 matches for any reporting cell to be disclosed. –
Not all programs at all campuses meet this threshold.
Websites •
Salary Surfer
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Data Mart (2)
Data Caveats •
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Excludes military military,, federal government, selfemployed, out of state and unemployed No way of determining part time or full time wages. Hours worked not in the EDDUI data. Only students with SSNs counted.
Analysis Caveats •
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Data reflects only the wage outcomes of award earners who remained in CA. Wages are not necessarily from employment associated with a particular award discipline; no information on job or whether degree/job match. Short term wage outcomes should not be a sole measure of institutional effectiveness or program quality. Other factors besides earnings motivate students to earn an award award in a specific discipline.
But Wait…there’s more!
There’s More Than Just Wage! •
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Wage Wage outcomes for graduates graduates only onl y represent one piece of the puzzle Besides annual wages from EDD also get industry of employment (NAICS) for students Many studies have looked at earnings of community college students but very few have been able to link to industry or occupation.
About NAICS •
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North American Industry Classification System NAICS is the lowest level of employment detail that EDD collects NAICS can be grouped at the two (sector), three (subsector), four (industry group), five (international industry) and six digit levels (national industry). For purposes of analysis, wages were aggregated to the two and four digit levels.
Rad. Technician echnician AA/AS AA/AS @ NAICS2 NAICS2
Rad. Technician echnician AA/AS AA/AS @ NAICS4 NAICS4
EDD Employers Site •
http://www.labormarketinfo.edd.ca.gov/aspd otnet/databrowsing/empMain.aspx?menuCho ice=emp
Liberal Arts & Sciences Associate Degree Most Common Industries of Employment 2 years before award: Industry of Employment Employment
Median Wage
% in Industry
Retail Trade Trade
$8,464
16.4
Health Care and Social Assistance
$17,499
11.0
Educational Services
$18,507
11.0
Accommodation Accommodation and Food Services
$7,302
10.2
Administrative Support , Waste Management and Remediation Services
$5,154
7.9
Liberal Arts & Sciences Associate Degree Most Common Industries of Employment 5 years after award: Industry of Employment Employment
Median Wage
% in Industry
Health Care and Social Assistance
$41,830
16.0
Educational Services
$28,491
14.5
Retail Trade Trade
$21,178
8.7
Public Administration Administration
$53,836
8.6
Professional, Scientific, and Technical Services
$28,004
8.0
What conclusions can we draw from this? •
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Many community college awards do a good job of moving students from low paying service sector employment to higher paying professional industries. Many of the allied health fields such as Nursing and Radiologic technology have a strong alignment with employers in health related industries. Even earning academic awards in areas such as Liberal Arts can help graduates move into professional occupations with higher wages.
Future work •
We will continue to explore industry related outcomes associated with wages. Begin to look at outcomes of those who don’t
complete a formal awards (skills upgrade, career upgrade, industry certificate etc.) •
Ways Ways we can incorporate incorporate industry of employment wages with our existing wage tracker data.
Questions & Comments…
Greetings from Jerry, Anne and Sutter!
California Community Colleges •
Wage Data: –
We have it!!!!!!
Methodology •
We are looking at wage outcomes for CCC award recipients (AA, AS, certificates down to 12 units) –
•
Not looking at 4-yr transfers or non-completers (yet)
What is the wage return of the “terminal” CCC
degree?
Methodology •
•
Start with all award recipients in any given year. Remove from dataset any of the following if they occurred after date of award: –
Still enrolled anywhere in CCC system
–
Transferred to any other institution outside system
Methodology •
Match remaining non-enrolled/nontransferred award recipients by SSN with EDD quarterly wage records. –
–
Sum of all quarterly wages = annual wage (fiscal/academic (fiscal/academic year= Q3-Q4-Q1-Q2) If any quarter in a calendar year has $1 or more of wages, this is counted (need just one quarter’ quarter ’s
worth of wages to be counted).
Reporting •
•
•
•
We look at wages between 2 years prior through 5 years after date of award. Median (not average) wages reported at various time intervals. All wages adjusted to CA CPI (current dollars.) Minimum n=10 matches for any reporting cell to be disclosed. –
Not all programs at all campuses meet this threshold.
Websites •
Salary Surfer
•
Data Mart (2)
Data Caveats •
•
•
Excludes military military,, federal government, selfemployed, out of state and unemployed No way of determining part time or full time wages. Hours worked not in the EDDUI data. Only students with SSNs counted.
Analysis Caveats •
•
•
•
Data reflects only the wage outcomes of award earners who remained in CA. Wages are not necessarily from employment associated with a particular award discipline; no information on job or whether degree/job match. Short term wage outcomes should not be a sole measure of institutional effectiveness or program quality. Other factors besides earnings motivate students to earn an award award in a specific discipline.
But Wait…there’s more!
There’s More Than Just Wage! •
•
•
Wage Wage outcomes for graduates graduates only onl y represent one piece of the puzzle Besides annual wages from EDD also get industry of employment (NAICS) for students Many studies have looked at earnings of community college students but very few have been able to link to industry or occupation.
About NAICS •
•
•
•
North American Industry Classification System NAICS is the lowest level of employment detail that EDD collects NAICS can be grouped at the two (sector), three (subsector), four (industry group), five (international industry) and six digit levels (national industry). For purposes of analysis, wages were aggregated to the two and four digit levels.
Rad. Technician echnician AA/AS AA/AS @ NAICS2 NAICS2
Rad. Technician echnician AA/AS AA/AS @ NAICS4 NAICS4
EDD Employers Site •
http://www.labormarketinfo.edd.ca.gov/aspd otnet/databrowsing/empMain.aspx?menuCho ice=emp
Liberal Arts & Sciences Associate Degree Most Common Industries of Employment 2 years before award: Industry of Employment Employment
Median Wage
% in Industry
Retail Trade Trade
$8,464
16.4
Health Care and Social Assistance
$17,499
11.0
Educational Services
$18,507
11.0
Accommodation Accommodation and Food Services
$7,302
10.2
Administrative Support , Waste Management and Remediation Services
$5,154
7.9
Liberal Arts & Sciences Associate Degree Most Common Industries of Employment 5 years after award: Industry of Employment Employment
Median Wage
% in Industry
Health Care and Social Assistance
$41,830
16.0
Educational Services
$28,491
14.5
Retail Trade Trade
$21,178
8.7
Public Administration Administration
$53,836
8.6
Professional, Scientific, and Technical Services
$28,004
8.0
What conclusions can we draw from this? •
•
•
Many community college awards do a good job of moving students from low paying service sector employment to higher paying professional industries. Many of the allied health fields such as Nursing and Radiologic technology have a strong alignment with employers in health related industries. Even earning academic awards in areas such as Liberal Arts can help graduates move into professional occupations with higher wages.
Future work •
We will continue to explore industry related outcomes associated with wages. Begin to look at outcomes of those who don’t
complete a formal awards (skills upgrade, career upgrade, industry certificate etc.) •
Ways Ways we can incorporate incorporate industry of employment wages with our existing wage tracker data.
Questions & Comments…
