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Return-Path: [email protected] Received: from epost.telsys.no (LHLO epost.telsys.no) (213.188.12.35) by ms1.telsys.no with LMTP; Fri, 4 May 2012 20:57:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by epost.telsys.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF33EB64935 for <[email protected]>; Fri, 4 May 2012 20:57:11 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at epost.telsys.no X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.787 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.787 tagged_above=-10 required=2.8 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL=0.01] autolearn=no Authentication-Results: epost.telsys.no (amavisd-new); dkim=softfail (fail, message has been altered) [email protected] Received: from epost.telsys.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (epost.telsys.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FMnxAhB20ogx for <[email protected]>; Fri, 4 May 2012 20:57:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lists.wikimedia.org (lists.wikimedia.org [208.80.154.4]) by epost.telsys.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276CBAA4003 for <[email protected]>; Fri, 4 May 2012 20:57:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:43489 helo=sodium.wikimedia.org) by sodium.wikimedia.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <[email protected]>) id 1SQNYi-00032F-6A; Fri, 04 May 2012 18:48:52 +0000 Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com ([209.85.213.181]:44877) by sodium.wikimedia.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <[email protected]>) id 1SQNYf-00030v-Vh for [email protected]; Fri, 04 May 2012 18:48:50 +0000 Received: by yenq2 with SMTP id q2so3356549yen.12 for <[email protected]>; Fri, 04 May 2012 11:57:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=HXLnnSMHFmvsNEfOniGCTL6rhRfiDsuTLzKDV5w/vHY=; b=SmmaAZbIyVHeeF0zbXLembVvkxS+Ot8Y+xpmJGolMj4gAoABw8SIu+ntDe1ksSlvL/ aD7SKxAPPkKJDfSH3ffQgn4FZU9GSEF9Hvla+psqprOXAq1vgzFkW5RUBDapuW0tDWXQ VYfJEXOTbuj+iTBKSL2rilEMR5Y7rOgHtXqyN+XqPCrNMfSUeZwmpTnPCk48PQdk0nUH zYN2tC4U4LgBV8g2itLcC450+4wKUvl+Jv8hxeBwv+5dGvWZrC34ZjMexm/IZ3j64m9o fVO8roQdr+OtVx/frGJDmJOVVQ1rk3Yme0yLw89VVIE8b/afKg3ZTkY1ex+9eGkl7jJI m12g== Received: by 10.50.94.234 with SMTP id df10mr3782840igb.31.1336157827046; Fri, 04 May 2012 11:57:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.39.203 with HTTP; Fri, 4 May 2012 11:56:46 -0700 (PDT) From: nsaa <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 20:56:46 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: XEHRZo3KgwIt3HlCrLj6fszxYrA Message-ID: <CAL8n-efE+hmOCV1gfmGZ5JC7QLkbuqeJYetkmgfoV2qjJj2M_A@mail.gmail.com> To: [email protected], [email protected] Subject: [Wikino-admin-l] removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.[ --- Re: Planting av meninger i Wikipedia X-BeenThere: [email protected] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: [email protected]

List-Id: <wikino-admin-l.lists.wikimedia.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/options/wikino-admin-l>, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]> List-Help: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikino-admin-l>, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1584443484463873051==" Sender: [email protected] Errors-To: [email protected] --===============1584443484463873051== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f2359bba51f8504bf3a7c10 --e89a8f2359bba51f8504bf3a7c10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nei overhode ikke http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BLP#N.C3.A5levende_personer "Man m=E5 v=E6re forsiktig med opplysninger om n=E5levende personer. Inform= asjon med manglende kildeangivelse<http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bruk_av= _kilder>, som er av usikker opprinnelse<http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiserbarhet#Bevisbyr= den_i_biografier_over_levende_personer> eller som er av straffbar karakter, m=E5 *ikke forekomme*." og http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP: We must get the article *right*. Be very firm about the use of high quality sources <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability#Sources>. All quotations and any material*challenged or likely to be challenged* must be explicitly attributed to a reliable, published source, which is usually done with an inline citation<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Inline_citat= ions>. Contentious material about living persons (or recently deceased<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_Deaths>) that is unsourced or poorly sourced=97whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable=97should be *removed immediately an= d without waiting for discussion*.[2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP#cite_note-1> Users who persistently or egregiously violate this policy may be blocked from editing <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy>. Kilden er igjen Wales: *^ <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP#cite_ref-1>* Jimmy Wales. "WikiEN-l Zero information is preferred to misleading or false information"<http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2006-May/046440.h= tml>, May 16, 2006, and May 19,

2006<http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2006-May/046732.html>; Jimmy Wales. Keynote speech<http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Archives/Jimbo_Keynote>, Wikimania, August 2006. Ja, s=E5 dette er ikke noe ny politikk... 2012/5/4 The Sidhekin <[email protected]> > 2012/5/4 nsaa <[email protected]> > >> Helt enig. Vi har et krav om omtale i solide sekund=E6rkilder. Er det >> omtaler av filmen i slike noe sted? Og da mer enn ett sted. Herregud, vi >> har jo steike meg slettet artikler med et vell av referanser (sp=F8r meg >> privat s=E5 skal jeg vise det, men vil ikke ta det opp p=E5 listen da je= g vil >> tr=E5kke noen politisk motiverte folk p=E5 t=E6rne) >> >> S=E5 ja jeg slettet on sight. Denne artikkelen bryter BLP, og kravet om >> verifiserbarhet i solide kilder... >> > > Wow. Manglende kilder og BLP-problemer f=F8rer til hurtigsletting n=E5= ? > > Er det ny politikk? Kan andre artikler med manglende kilder og > BLP-problemer ogs=E5 hurtigslettes? > > Skal ikke slikt vedtas p=E5 Tinget? > > > Eirik > > _______________________________________________ > Wikino-admin-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikino-admin-l > > --e89a8f2359bba51f8504bf3a7c10 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nei overhode ikke<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://no.wikipedia.org/wik= i/WP:BLP#N.C3.A5levende_personer">http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BLP#N.C3.= A5levende_personer</a></div><div>&quot;<span style=3D"font-family:sans-seri= f;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Man m= =E5 v=E6re forsiktig med opplysninger om n=E5levende personer. Informasjon = med manglende=A0</span><a href=3D"http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Br= uk_av_kilder" title=3D"Wikipedia:Bruk av kilder" style=3D"text-decoration:n= one;color:rgb(90,54,150);background-image:none;background-color:rgb(255,255= ,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px">kildeangivels= e</a><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;= background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">, som er av=A0</span><a href=3D"http://n= o.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiserbarhet#Bevisbyrden_i_biografier_ove= r_levende_personer" title=3D"Wikipedia:Verifiserbarhet" style=3D"text-decor= ation:none;color:rgb(90,54,150);background-image:none;background-color:rgb(= 255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px">usikke=

r opprinnelse</a><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-= height:19px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">=A0eller som er av straffbar= karakter, m=E5=A0</span><b style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;= line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">ikke forekomme</b><span= style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;background= -color:rgb(255,255,255)">.</span>&quot;</div> <div><br></div><div>og=A0</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://en.wik= ipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP</= a>:</div><div><br></div><div><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-siz= e:13px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(248,252,255)">We must get the = article=A0</span><i style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-hei= ght:19px;background-color:rgb(248,252,255)">right</i><span style=3D"font-fa= mily:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(248,25= 2,255)">. Be very firm about the use of high quality=A0</span><a href=3D"ht= tp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability#Sources" title=3D"Wikipe= dia:Verifiability" style=3D"color:rgb(90,54,150);background-image:none;back= ground-color:rgb(248,252,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-he= ight:19px">sources</a><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;= line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(248,252,255)">. All quotations and an= y material</span><b style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-hei= ght:19px;background-color:rgb(248,252,255)">challenged or likely to be chal= lenged</b><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:= 19px;background-color:rgb(248,252,255)">=A0must be explicitly attributed to= a reliable, published source, which is usually done with an=A0</span><a hr= ef=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Inline_citation= s" title=3D"Wikipedia:Citing sources" style=3D"color:rgb(90,54,150);backgro= und-image:none;background-color:rgb(248,252,255);font-family:sans-serif;fon= t-size:13px;line-height:19px">inline citation</a><span style=3D"font-family= :sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(248,252,25= 5)">. Contentious material about living persons (or=A0</span><a href=3D"htt= p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_Deaths" title=3D"Recent Deaths" class=3D"m= w-redirect" style=3D"color:rgb(90,54,150);background-image:none;background-= color:rgb(248,252,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19= px">recently deceased</a><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13= px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(248,252,255)">) that is unsourced = or poorly sourced=97whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or= just questionable=97should be=A0</span><b style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;= font-size:13px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(248,252,255)">removed = immediately and without waiting for discussion</b><span style=3D"font-famil= y:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(248,252,2= 55)">.</span><sup id=3D"cite_ref-1" class=3D"reference" style=3D"line-heigh= t:1em;font-family:sans-serif;background-color:rgb(248,252,255)"><a href=3D"= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP#cite_note-1" style=3D"color:rgb(= 90,54,150);background-image:none;background-color:initial;white-space:nowra= p">[2]</a></sup><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-h= eight:19px;background-color:rgb(248,252,255)">=A0Users who persistently or = egregiously violate this policy may be=A0</span><a href=3D"http://en.wikipe= dia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy" title=3D"Wikipedia:Blocking policy"= style=3D"color:rgb(90,54,150);background-image:none;background-color:rgb(2= 48,252,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px">blocked= from editing</a><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-= height:19px;background-color:rgb(248,252,255)">.</span></div> <div><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;= background-color:rgb(248,252,255)"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"fon= t-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(24= 8,252,255)">Kilden er igjen Wales:</span></div> <div><b style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:17px"><a=

href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP#cite_ref-1" style=3D"co= lor:rgb(90,54,150);background-image:none;background-color:initial">^</a></b= ><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:17px;back= ground-color:rgb(221,238,255)">=A0</span><span class=3D"reference-text" sty= le=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:17px">Jimmy Wales.= =A0<a class=3D"external text" href=3D"http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/w= ikien-l/2006-May/046440.html" style=3D"color:rgb(51,102,187);background-ima= ge:url(&#39;data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAoAAAAKCAYAAACNM= s+9AAAAVklEQVR4Xn3PgQkAMQhDUXfqTu7kTtkpd5RA8AInfArtQ2iRXFWT2QedAfttj2FsPIOE= 1eCOlEuoWWjgzYaB/IkeGOrxXhqB+uA9Bfcm0lAZuh+YIeAD+cAqSz4kCMUAAAAASUVORK5CYII= =3D&#39;);background-color:initial;padding-right:13px;background-repeat:no-= repeat no-repeat">&quot;WikiEN-l Zero information is preferred to misleadin= g or false information&quot;</a>, May 16, 2006, and=A0<a class=3D"external = text" href=3D"http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2006-May/046732.= html" style=3D"color:rgb(51,102,187);background-image:url(&#39;data:image/p= ng;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAoAAAAKCAYAAACNMs+9AAAAVklEQVR4Xn3PgQkAM= QhDUXfqTu7kTtkpd5RA8AInfArtQ2iRXFWT2QedAfttj2FsPIOE1eCOlEuoWWjgzYaB/IkeGOrx= XhqB+uA9Bfcm0lAZuh+YIeAD+cAqSz4kCMUAAAAASUVORK5CYII=3D&#39;);background-col= or:initial;padding-right:13px;background-repeat:no-repeat no-repeat">May 19= , 2006</a>; Jimmy Wales.=A0<a class=3D"external text" href=3D"http://wikima= nia2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Archives/Jimbo_Keynote" style=3D"color:rgb(51,10= 2,187);background-image:url(&#39;data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhE= UgAAAAoAAAAKCAYAAACNMs+9AAAAVklEQVR4Xn3PgQkAMQhDUXfqTu7kTtkpd5RA8AInfArtQ2i= RXFWT2QedAfttj2FsPIOE1eCOlEuoWWjgzYaB/IkeGOrxXhqB+uA9Bfcm0lAZuh+YIeAD+cAqSz= 4kCMUAAAAASUVORK5CYII=3D&#39;);background-color:initial;padding-right:13px;= background-repeat:no-repeat no-repeat">Keynote speech</a>, Wikimania, Augus= t 2006.</span></div> <div><span class=3D"reference-text" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-si= ze:12px;line-height:17px"><br></span></div><div><span class=3D"reference-te= xt" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:17px">Ja, s= =E5 dette er ikke noe ny politikk...</span></div> <div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2012/5/4 The Sidhekin <span dir=3D"= ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">sidheki= [email protected]</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D= "margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> 2012/5/4 nsaa <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nsaa.wikipedia@gmail.= com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span><br><div clas= s=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Helt enig. Vi har et krav om omtale i solide sekund=E6rkilder. Er det omtal= er av filmen i slike noe sted? Og da mer enn ett sted. Herregud, vi har jo = steike meg slettet artikler med et vell av referanser (sp=F8r meg privat s= =E5 skal jeg vise det, men vil ikke ta det opp p=E5 listen da jeg vil tr=E5= kke noen politisk motiverte folk p=E5 t=E6rne)=A0<div>

<br><div>S=E5 ja jeg slettet on sight. Denne artikkelen bryter BLP, og krav= et om verifiserbarhet i solide kilder...=A0</div></div></blockquote></div><= div><br>=A0 Wow.=A0 Manglende kilder og BLP-problemer f=F8rer til hurtigsle= tting n=E5?<br> <br>=A0 Er det ny politikk?=A0 Kan andre artikler med manglende kilder og B=

LP-problemer ogs=E5 hurtigslettes?<br><br>=A0 Skal ikke slikt vedtas p=E5 T= inget?<br><br><br>Eirik<br></div></div> <br>_______________________________________________<br> Wikino-admin-l mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Wikino-admin-l@lists.= wikimedia.org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikino-admin-l" tar= get=3D"_blank">https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikino-admin-l<= /a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br></div> --e89a8f2359bba51f8504bf3a7c10---===============1584443484463873051== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Wikino-admin-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikino-admin-l --===============1584443484463873051==--

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