2011 Jan 13 - Howard Griswold Conference Call
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Howard Griswold Conference Call—Thursday, January 13, 2011 Partial Howard Griswold Conference calls: 218-844-3388 pin 966771# (6 mutes & un-mutes), Thursday’s at 8 p.m., Eastern Time. ‘6’ Mutes and un-mutes
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For donations to desert, send them to Free America Radio Network, 121 Seaparc Circle, Suite B, Kingsland, Georgia 31548. Phone number: 912-882-2142. Cell: 304-629-7169. For reference: Jersey City v. Hague, 115 Atlantic Reporter 2nd, page 8 (A 2nd ) ***************************************************** Start ***************************************************** {01:14:56.000} [Howard] I don’t know how or why I’m in this position but over the 31 years that I have been researching, reading and out doing seminars and conference calls I have actually led this country and the people in it to a line of thinking that is in line with the founding fathers intended with what the actual statutory laws say with the procedures that are being used that are wrong and taught people what they are and actually changed the thinking of the people in this country. I don’t know why I’m in that position, I don’t know why God chose me to do that, I just am for some reason and it’s been terribly stressful on me because I’m dealing with a bunch of morons and that applies to all of us because I was one of them. It took the longest time for this reading and studying to penetrate my thick head and make me understand the opposite of what I’ve been taught. I’ve been taught to be a moron by education, by religion, by news media. Follow the crowd. Go along with everybody else and be a moron like everybody is. This is why we’re in the position we’re in because we’ve gone along for all these years. And something that really irritates me: Somebody sent Dave an e-mail and Dave forwarded it on to me and the guy said—there was a case he cited— and he said, this case says that the rules, regulations for government are for government authorities only and not for humans. Apparently, he doesn’t listen real good to my discussion about humans. Anyway, he says, ‘all the codes and rules and regulations are unconstitutional and lacking due process.’ I don’t know who this guy is. He’s thinking a little bit but this case does not say what he said it said. We pulled the case and I’ve read it and there are some very good information in this case but it does not say what he said it says. I told you of a case that says—and now, I forget the name of it—Chicago Railroad v. some school district in Colorado. But anyway, that case does say that the rules, regulations, statutes and codes of government only apply to government, that they apply to a juristic society. If you go look up what a juristic society means, it means government. It doesn’t
mean us, it doesn’t mean the private sector, it doesn’t mean the people that don’t work for government. It only means the people in government and the property that government owns and that’s all government rules and regulations apply to. Now, you can become with government. You can go to work for them. You can ask them for a privileged license. You can ask them for the privilege of being a corporate officer and having a corporation of your own or something to hide your assets behind the corporation. These are privileges that government gives out and they have advantages. For instance, I wouldn’t own a medical office that wasn’t privileged by a license because it gives me certain protections for that medical office. I wouldn’t own a bar or an alcohol manufacturing company without having a license because that license gives me certain privileges and protections against lawsuits. So there’s an advantage to those privileges and if you think that advantage is beneficial to you there’s no harm to you taking advantage of it but if you take advantage of it you’ve got to realize you put yourself in a position of being regulated in everything you do by government and being taxed and you got to pay the taxes because that’s what government’s authority to pay taxes is all about. Imposts, duties and excises is the only taxing authority that Congress has. We’ve talked about this before. This is a perfect example of what I’m going to show you that this court case talked about today. If you have a medical license which is a drug pushing license, a gun dealer’s license, an alcohol license, a security dealer’s license or a gambling license these are the things that government has the authority to control under some presumption from the Constitution. I wouldn’t create a disagreement with that either because somebody has to keep those kinds of things under control in some way or another. Congress has the right to regulate commerce. The concept of regulating commerce was that they were supposed to make sure that commerce continued to flow— that’s the general welfare. Welfare had nothing to do with some window you go to on Friday night and get a check. That’s not what welfare meant. The general welfare meant to keep up the welfare of the people by maintaining commerce so people could be active in commerce and products and goods would be available to the people that they needed and at low taxes at moderate cost. They were supposed to control things so that things didn’t get out of control. Today, they are causing things to get out of control. They are imposing the taxes improperly on people that don’t come under the category that they have a taxing authority for. I don’t presently and haven’t for many years been involved in any privileges of government. Now, many years ago I owned a corporation that owned a liquor license. As a matter of fact, I owned several of them because I bought them and sold them. It was a game I played—a very profitable game, too, and it was well worth it. Those corporations paid every penny of tax that they were supposed to pay because I knew as a corporation I had a privilege and I knew I had to pay the tax to keep the corporation going otherwise they’d shut me down so they paid the taxes and I made money. I made good money in the liquor business. That was a very profitable—I wouldn’t have one today. The world is too much different today. People’s attitudes are too much different today. I wouldn’t have a place like that. It’s not a worthwhile investment today. We got these medical offices. They are under licenses and privileges and under corporate statuses and they pay their taxes. They have to because there’s still money in pushing drugs and there’s a legitimate way to do it. It’s called a doctor’s license. They can push drugs and people are dumb enough to buy the drugs and use them and go to doctors. Doctors aren’t very bright. They don’t know much about the body but they do know a whole lot about which drug you should take if you have this ailment so people go to them and as long as they are there’s money to be
made in that racket but that racket has to pay taxes and it does. I would not avoid much less evade those taxes in any way because I know better. I know you’d get in trouble. I know you’d lose what you got in the long run. But the private individual that works for a company that doesn’t have any of these privileges is not covered under the taxing authority of Congress yet the IRS imposes taxes on everybody, don’t they? They have bothered people about flea markets and yard sales. They want people who have yard sales to go get a license so that they’ll pay taxes on the money they make in their yard sale. They’re selling their own private property in a yard sale. IRS is way beyond their authority in doing things like this. Back in the mid-1990s in some of the seminars that I was teaching I brought up Title 5, United States Code, Section 703. That is the authority for judicial review of agency actions. I taught it, I put it out there, I showed people it was available. This is how you challenge what an agency is doing. I gave details about how it was done right from the Code Book and what the code says about how to do it—it’s an equitable action. It’s not in statutory law, it’s in equity. In equity if there is a wrong the courts will rule against the wrong. Nobody’s ever picked up on it. Nobody’s ever followed it. These are the kinds of things that worried me, made the problem worse with my research trying to find a way to get people out of their troubles that they get themselves into by dealing in some of this stuff that they shouldn’t even be dealing in. This part of what’s worn me down over the years because nobody picks up on the hard way to do something, the only way to do something. The only way is going to be a hard way. It’s not going to be easy for you. You got to do some studying. You got to actually strain your brainstem a little bit and learn something. You can’t just listen to a moron running his mouth and think you can go into court and run your mouth the same way he does. Most people can’t do that anyway. They can’t even remember what they heard and repeat it. But if they get it half way down they go into court and try it, they bring up all kinds of stupid arguments and none of them are worth two cents. This bullshit about having symbols and flags and all that kind of crap, that was another waste of time and effort. That has nothing to do with what the law says. How you put commas or dashes or something in your name has nothing to do with what the law says. This patriot crap, it just puts people off in the wrong direction, creates more problems. But listen to what this case said. This case is Rodriquez v. Jay Donovan. Jay Donovan was apparently the federal employment compensation department head. Rodriquez had been released from a government job and considered to be disabled and was collecting compensation. Then somebody said that he was making money working in a job so they terminated his compensation. He sued them for a lack of due process—interesting case. Has nothing to do with what the guy said it had to do with but listen to this comment that the court made. The court said that the courts have long indulged in a presumption favoring judicial review of agency actions. The Supreme Court has stated only upon a showing of a clear and convincing evidence of a contrary legislative intent should the courts restrict access to judicial review. I just told you about the IRS and what they’re doing. There is plenty of evidence that what they’re doing is contrary to the legislative intent and only upon a convincing evidence that there is no contrary intent should the courts restrict access to the judicial review. The courts repeated several cases Abbot Laboratories v. Garner 387 US Rpts, p. 136. And Accord Lindahl v. the Office of Personnel Management and they didn’t have a US Reports on that. They have 105 Supreme Court Reports, p. 1620. And Dunlop v. Bachowski and that’s 421 US Rpts, p. 560. Those cases all say the same thing, the court will give a judicial review when—and here’s the statement of when that the court
made—the presumption in favor of judicial review is especially strong in cases in which constitutional challenges are raised. Constitutional questions obviously are unsuited to resolution in administrative hearing procedures and therefore access to the courts is essential to a decision of such questions. And that’s Califano v. Sanders 430 US Rpts, p. 99. Now, I didn’t know about this case. As a matter of fact this case is not really that old. I’ll go back and see when it was—1985. It’s old enough. This not one of them that I had cited in the past to explain judicial review but the constitutional question of due process is that statute that they’re applying to me, applicable to me. It goes right back to the Chicago Railroad v. the School District in Colorado that the codes, laws, rules and regulations of government apply only to government. If you’re not government those code don’t apply to you. I don’t care if it’s the property tax code, the IRS income tax code, the traffic code, the puppy dog code. The regulations of government apply inside of government to government only. Government has no authority. We discussed this before. I have read what Madison wrote about the Constitution in Paper No. 39 of the Federalist Papers. He explained that the government was federal and had its own individual authority and the people in their private capacity, the general citizenry, were private and they had their own authority and neither one of them were to be mixed. We have mixed and we’ve allowed the mix and we haven’t put a stop to it. I can understand why some people with very little mentality and possibly some mental disorders might get angry enough to go shoot some of these people. That’s wrong even though you can probably brush it off like is probably going to happen with this case in Arizona. They’ll brush it off and put him in a mental institution. It’s still wrong. ~~The government, themselves, should execute their own people and there should be executions. Some of these people in government should be executed in the public square for the wrongs that they’re doing. They are definitely in breach of their public trust which we talked about last week. That breach is an equitable question and the only way you can bring a judicial review of agency action is through an equitable question. Look at Title 5, United States Code, Section 703 and it gives you the list of equitable actions to use for a judicial review and they’re all equitable actions. They’re not statutory actions, they’re not at-law actions, they’re equitable. Equity rules the law, it controls the law to make sure the law doesn’t get illegal, isn’t improperly used. These are the procedures that can be used. Here’s the other statement that I marked in it. The Federal Employee Compensation Agency clearly does not require exhaustion of administrative remedies as a prerequisite to the district court’s jurisdiction for administrative review. As we noted above the FECA precludes federal jurisdiction with regard to merits of a compensation claim but we hold today that the FECA was not intended to preclude jurisdiction over due process challenges such as Mr. Rodriquez raises here. Due process challenges come under the judicial review under equity pleadings determining whether or not the statutory law applies to you because it’s intended by the legislative intent to apply to the private individual. Well, it can’t be intended to apply to the private individual and Congress knows that and Congress does not pass—well, they’ve made a mistake a few times and been declared unconstitutional but very rarely has anything they’ve done been declared unconstitutional. For instance let’s go back to the income tax. The income tax has been challenged many times for its constitutionality from many different angles and every time it’s been determined to be constitutional. It indeed is because the income tax laws only apply to imposts, duties and excises—privileges from government mainly. The presumption is you
have a privilege. You must or you wouldn’t be there arguing with them. You’re not rebutting that presumption by asking for an administrative action to be reviewed judicially as to their authority to implement this statute upon you, the private individual. We’ve done everything backwards for so long and the leaders that teach all this stuff out here are leading people in the wrong direction 99% of the time. I think I complemented a couple of them last week for finally learning to read the law and understand the law and use the law properly. But it’s only a couple. The majority of these leaders over the years have not bothered to study the law, to understand what the law says can be done or to do it properly. This breach of trust as we get deeper and deeper into it and study more and more of it is going to show you what kinds of things you can bring under a judicial review of an agency’s action to prove that they are in breach of the trust. And by the way, the book says that they are personally liable for any injury that they cause as a trustee from their own assets. I really feel sorry for that lady Congressman that was shot in the head that she’s going through a lot worse pain, at least she’ll know she went through worse pain when she comes out of the coma and the family’s going through a lot worse pain than what is necessary. But there’d be plenty of pain when they ended up out on the street homeless because somebody took everything away from them, everything they own away from them for their breach of trust, their breach of fiduciary duty. That was the main thrust of what I was going to talk about tonight. I wasn’t going to get into the breach of trust and try to mix it with this. If you don’t understand this, call me. Email Dave and ask some questions about it or something. If you didn’t get the quote of the section of the Code e-mail us. We’ll tell you where to find it, tell you where to find this case. This case is not that important. It’s just the ones I just quoted to you, the ones that are important. E-mail Dave and ask him for it or call me or call Dave. One of us will get back to you one way or another. If Dave doesn’t have the answer he’ll send it over to me and I’ll answer it and send it on to you. . . . {03:10:40.193} [Howard] Actually, the best execution is for people like you and I to bring charges against them for breach of trust and here’s what this thing said: Even though they can operate to the exclusion of us telling them what to do. It goes on to say, so that where the trust instrument gives the cestui que trust no power to interfere with the trustee the cestui que trust—meaning beneficiary—cannot control the trustee’s action in administering the trust. We have no power –haven’t you notice that? We can’t tell this government what to do. It does whatever the hell it wants to do. {or could that be what Wall Street wants?} ignoring us so this fits, doesn’t it? It goes on to say: In any event the only authority which the trust beneficiary can assert on behalf of the estate is one which the fiduciary possesses. Acts within the scope of the authority of the trustee bind the trust property and the beneficiary. And ordinarily notice to the former, meaning the trustee, will be deemed notice to the latter, meaning the beneficiary. And although this rule is inapplicable in some circumstances—then they quote a court case about that— however beneficiaries are not bound by the trustee’s unlawful omissions or acts. The beneficiaries are not bound by these wrongful acts that they are doing and you need to know that. If you can’t find corpus juris secundum –sooner or later I’m going to put all this
stuff on people_looking_for_the_truth and perhaps some of it will be on Dave’s www.peoples-rights.com . [Dave] The new website is www.escape-tickets-IRS-court.org .
[Howard] And you know what, this is a way to put on there to help people to escape because using the judicial review as a counter-complaint within a complaint made against you, a request for judicial review of the agency’s action and a determination in equity of the rightfulness of what they’ve done. They have breached the trust—that throws everything into equity because trusts are always sitting in equity—and show that you are the beneficiary. You’re not part of them. So, you’re the beneficiary and you are not bound by them, the trustees’ unlawful omissions or acts and acts done or knowledge acquired by the trustee cannot be inputted to the cestui que beneficiary for whom the trustee was not at the time acting. So, if he’s acting for his own good, his own benefit which is what they’re doing with our property. They’re using it for their own benefit, not for yours. They’re investing our property and making profits off of it. Have you ever gotten a check for the profits? I haven’t. They never sent me any money and said, ‘here, this is what we made off of investing your land, your automobile, your business license—nothing, have they ever acknowledged they have invested it and made money? They kept the money that they made off of me. And I guarantee you with all the businesses I was in they made money off of me. Anyway, it goes on to say: A trustee cannot make a binding admission against the interest of the beneficiary… and there’s a court case that backs that up. …or which will estop him from performing his duties as a trustee and where a trust has been created and a trust appointed and given possession of the trust estate the trust cannot be destroyed by some improper act or omission of the trustee. The trust goes on until you terminate it. But we have the power and the right to terminate those trusts if we wish. Anyway, it goes on to say: And an estoppel may not be invoked against a trustee as to any acts or omissions not within the authority of the trustee. In other words, you can’t make him stop by any other process other than terminating the trust. That’s the only way you can stop it. Although a particular power is conferred on the trustee he cannot properly exercise the power under such circumstances or to such extent or in such manner as will involve a violation of any of his duties to the beneficiary. We are protected but we don’t know it and you’ll never get a lawyer to help you because he’s one of the scum that’s in the trustee position that’s taking advantage of us. So don’t go to a lawyer. You have to learn this stuff
for yourself. You have to learn how to go into court for yourself and bring a countercomplaint against them for breach of their trust. This little paragraph that I just read to you gives you the benefit as the beneficiary of the ability to stop them from executing their claims against you for liability for their debts. And that’s exactly what I’ve told you in years gone by that they’re doing, they’re creating debts and then passing the debts on to you and I. That’s what the taxes are that are imposed upon private people. They’re not taxing their own business operations like they’re supposed to. They’re taxing the private people. They’re passing their debts onto the American society that is not party to government and getting us to support them. They have no right to do this—that’s a breach of their trust. That’s an agency action in an administrative action that cannot be averted in the lower courts. Somebody in one of those e-mails made a comment that there’s no judicial courts in this country. That’s not true. There is a judicial arena within the courts. You just have to open it but the courts are generally administrative and they’ll stay administrative until you open the judicial authority of the court and the only way to open that is in equity with an equity pleading, an equity pleading such as declaratory and injunctive relief or breach of the trust or a writ of prohibition. Look at Title 5, United States Code, Section 703. It gives you the whole list of equitable actions that can be taken to question the due process of government officials in following the trust and doing what they’re supposed to do under the trust document which is the Constitution. If we went after every member of Congress we could clean those people out because there’s another section in here that I think I read to you last week and I don’t know where to put my fingers on it right now, but I think it came out of Bouvier’s Law Dictionary and a couple of cases that were cited in there that said that the trustee is personally liable for the wrongs that he does, not the United States government and there’s no sense in suing the government. No wonder these court cases get thrown out of court very quickly for suing the state or suing the federal government because, first of all, the governments are fictions. Fictions don’t do anything and fictions don’t hurt anybody and fictions can’t be hurt so they can’t sue you for hurting a fiction but they do it all the time and get away with it. You violated a state law, you violated a federal law, you got to pay a penalty or go to jail, and they get away with this stuff and the fact is you didn’t violate any person. A lot of these charges that they bring against you are for not paying the tax to the fiction. They have no right—that’s a breach of their fiduciary duty when they bring those kinds of things. That is binding you and your estate to their debts and they have the power to do this and they’re getting away with it simply because we don’t know enough to show them that as beneficiaries they can’t hold us liable. Look this section up on your own. If you can’t find it contact us and we’ll send you a photocopy of it and the court cases cited or wait a little while and I will get this all on some type of computer printout that’s legible that we can put on people_looking_for_the_truth {yahoo group} or www.peoples-rights.com for you to download. This is got to be free information because this is right out of their textbooks. This is not something that anybody could sell. They’ve already sold us a bill of goods and destroyed our lifestyle through that bill of goods. This is something that people should learn and get for nothing to defeat the bill of goods that government has sold us. And it’s not government—I keep telling you this—there is nothing wrong with this government itself. It is these corrupt dirty people that are in it that have twisted it and bent it out of shape, deformed it in such a way that they are benefiting from it and destroying us, the true beneficiaries. We can put a stop to it, it can be done and we don’t have to go shoot
politicians. That other e-mail that he was reading had a little bit of a twist to it that I was unaware of. I didn’t know that Gabriel Gifford had stood up against the drug cartels. There is a good possibility that that was a planned hit on her to shut her up and stop her from going against the drug cartels. That’s a very good possibility. I don’t know that that’s correct. I really haven’t looked into this very far. I care that somebody was harmed, that some people died, I do care but I don’t care enough to get involved in the investigation because there is going to be too much twisted, bent out of shape bullshit information related to it. They will cover up anything that is real. I know this. I have seen how these investigations go and they cover things up all the time. I wouldn’t trust these people to do the investigation by government as far as I could throw them and I doubt if—most people are bigger and heavier than I am—I couldn’t throw them very far so I wouldn’t trust them as far as I could throw them. And I don’t have the time to go personally investigate and don’t have the initiative to go personally investigate it. I feel very sorry for Gabriel and the judge (Roll) and the little nine-year-old girl and the other ones that were killed—this was wrong. I have a feeling from what that e-mail said about her that she was standing up against some of the evils. She must have been a good person and you want to look out because any politician that stands up against the evils and show you that he’s a good person will be done away with sooner or later. They’ll push him out of office or her out of office or they’ll kill him, they’ll kill their children because they threaten them with things like that. We’re up against a very evil element that has done all these things but that evil element cannot enforce their debt claims against you and throw the burden of liability against you and your estate for the very reason I just read to you because the trustee cannot make a binding admission against the interest of the beneficiary—that’s you and I. We’re the beneficiaries. Interesting, Dave, this is another New York court case, Johnson v. A L Erianger Realty Corporation 296 NY Sup Ct., book 89. It can also be found at 162 Misc. NY Reports and page 881 backing up that statement. Now, these are old quotes. This book is not up to date with the newest information. I’m sure with Google research you could probably find newer cases to back that up and I’ll guarantee you these courts when you get up into the judicial level of judicial examinations of things like this they don’t change. The history of this country has not changed at the higher levels. It has only changed at the lower level where lawyers can corrupt the system. Judges will help them to corrupt the system at the lower level and cheat the American people out of their wealth and their property and they’ve done a great job of it. They’ve almost ruined the country. And I know two steps that can be taken that’ll ruin the rest of it. I hope we don’t have to implement those two steps. That might be what it’ll take. It might take a catastrophic event that destroys the ability to live normally to wake people up. I hope it doesn’t have to go that far but there’s a way to create a catastrophic event. This system is so vulnerable. Because of its corruption it’s so vulnerable. A little bit of a disruption in one area could multiply so fast that it could bring down almost everything that’s presently going on. And if it did I would shut everything down except the money. The money would still be there but you couldn’t get any of it. It’ll be so easy to shut it down. We may need to do that but I hope not. That will cause a lot of discomfort for a lot of people that will be unbearable. I think it might end up with a lot of suicides. We’re going to end up with a lot of suicides anyway as this thing unwinds and folds up on its own but I don’t want to cause that any sooner than what is going to happen naturally. But something’s got to wake these people up. Something’s got to make people realize what I’m teaching you about the trust and that you’re the
beneficiary of the government trust. It has nothing to do with you setting up your own trust. I’m not trying to sell you a trust. I have the ability to put together trusts for people who want them for their own private use but there’s no such thing as a private trust. There is more rhetoric and bullshit out there by a couple of people teaching. I’ve been looking into this and listening to some of this crap that these people that talk about trusts have to say. They have no idea what they’re talking about—they’ve never read the law of trusts. I don’t know where they get this stupid information that they get. So beware of anybody promoting a trust for you. You’re living in a trust already. The government is in a trust position looking out for you. Make them do it right. That’s all you have to do and you will find out that you have the freedom in life to live comfortably providing that you’re willing to put out an effort and do things for yourself and produce. If you’re a lazy bum and you don’t want to produce you’re going to perish—that’s nature—there’s nothing wrong with that. Animals do that. The weakest animal dies—that’s nature. The weakest of people – let’s put it that way because all people are not humans, thank God. If it gets to that point it’ll be the point that the Bible talks about that there’ll be nothing left for God to come back for because humans are not God’s people. But anyway, until we get to that point, another two generations—by the way, a generation is seventy years. So in two more seventy year generations all of God’s people would disappear if He doesn’t come very soon and do something about this. We have to do something, right now, to get us by and avoid these liabilities and I’ve just told you the direction to go in. Now, if you don’t listen, you don’t understand, or you’re going to get on this call after I get off of here and talk about some bullshit that somebody else is putting out then I know you didn’t learn a damned thing by listening to me. So, those people who do those kinds of things don’t bother to get back on the call next week—we don’t need you, the American people don’t need you. We got to narrow this down to the ones that have the gumption and brains to do what’s necessary. We don’t imbeciles to go off in tangent directions. We need people who will stand up that’ll understand what’s going on and bring forth the exposure of what’s going on—that’s what we really need, not bull crap. Our time is very limited to do this. This system is collapsing quickly. If we don’t wake the people up, show them what’s wrong, show them how to stand on their own there will be major disasters in the very near future. You don’t have to believe me. Just do a little bit of study in the directions I’ve studied in and you’ll see. This economic system is very, very touchy right now. It wouldn’t take much to tip it completely over and they’re doing the wrong things. They will tip it over on their own. We could force it earlier but no need to do that, they’ll do it on their own. The fact that they will take time doing it gives us time to teach more people what position we’re really in and how to protect yourself so it’s better that we leave it alone. Let it go on its own. But you got to start listening. You got to start paying attention. You got to start doing a little bit of studying on your own. You got to pay attention. Don’t look for some shortcut method, some easy stupid thing like write across it, accepted for value. The only thing that’s going to do is get you in more trouble. Although a lot of people fell for that they’re now beginning to realize that it didn’t work and it wasn’t going to work. Whoever’s promoting that kind of crap, you should get away from them and stay away from them.
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For donations to desert, send them to Free America Radio Network, 121 Seaparc Circle, Suite B, Kingsland, Georgia 31548. Phone number: 912-882-2142. Cell: 304-629-7169. For reference: Jersey City v. Hague, 115 Atlantic Reporter 2nd, page 8 (A 2nd ) ***************************************************** Start ***************************************************** {01:14:56.000} [Howard] I don’t know how or why I’m in this position but over the 31 years that I have been researching, reading and out doing seminars and conference calls I have actually led this country and the people in it to a line of thinking that is in line with the founding fathers intended with what the actual statutory laws say with the procedures that are being used that are wrong and taught people what they are and actually changed the thinking of the people in this country. I don’t know why I’m in that position, I don’t know why God chose me to do that, I just am for some reason and it’s been terribly stressful on me because I’m dealing with a bunch of morons and that applies to all of us because I was one of them. It took the longest time for this reading and studying to penetrate my thick head and make me understand the opposite of what I’ve been taught. I’ve been taught to be a moron by education, by religion, by news media. Follow the crowd. Go along with everybody else and be a moron like everybody is. This is why we’re in the position we’re in because we’ve gone along for all these years. And something that really irritates me: Somebody sent Dave an e-mail and Dave forwarded it on to me and the guy said—there was a case he cited— and he said, this case says that the rules, regulations for government are for government authorities only and not for humans. Apparently, he doesn’t listen real good to my discussion about humans. Anyway, he says, ‘all the codes and rules and regulations are unconstitutional and lacking due process.’ I don’t know who this guy is. He’s thinking a little bit but this case does not say what he said it said. We pulled the case and I’ve read it and there are some very good information in this case but it does not say what he said it says. I told you of a case that says—and now, I forget the name of it—Chicago Railroad v. some school district in Colorado. But anyway, that case does say that the rules, regulations, statutes and codes of government only apply to government, that they apply to a juristic society. If you go look up what a juristic society means, it means government. It doesn’t
mean us, it doesn’t mean the private sector, it doesn’t mean the people that don’t work for government. It only means the people in government and the property that government owns and that’s all government rules and regulations apply to. Now, you can become with government. You can go to work for them. You can ask them for a privileged license. You can ask them for the privilege of being a corporate officer and having a corporation of your own or something to hide your assets behind the corporation. These are privileges that government gives out and they have advantages. For instance, I wouldn’t own a medical office that wasn’t privileged by a license because it gives me certain protections for that medical office. I wouldn’t own a bar or an alcohol manufacturing company without having a license because that license gives me certain privileges and protections against lawsuits. So there’s an advantage to those privileges and if you think that advantage is beneficial to you there’s no harm to you taking advantage of it but if you take advantage of it you’ve got to realize you put yourself in a position of being regulated in everything you do by government and being taxed and you got to pay the taxes because that’s what government’s authority to pay taxes is all about. Imposts, duties and excises is the only taxing authority that Congress has. We’ve talked about this before. This is a perfect example of what I’m going to show you that this court case talked about today. If you have a medical license which is a drug pushing license, a gun dealer’s license, an alcohol license, a security dealer’s license or a gambling license these are the things that government has the authority to control under some presumption from the Constitution. I wouldn’t create a disagreement with that either because somebody has to keep those kinds of things under control in some way or another. Congress has the right to regulate commerce. The concept of regulating commerce was that they were supposed to make sure that commerce continued to flow— that’s the general welfare. Welfare had nothing to do with some window you go to on Friday night and get a check. That’s not what welfare meant. The general welfare meant to keep up the welfare of the people by maintaining commerce so people could be active in commerce and products and goods would be available to the people that they needed and at low taxes at moderate cost. They were supposed to control things so that things didn’t get out of control. Today, they are causing things to get out of control. They are imposing the taxes improperly on people that don’t come under the category that they have a taxing authority for. I don’t presently and haven’t for many years been involved in any privileges of government. Now, many years ago I owned a corporation that owned a liquor license. As a matter of fact, I owned several of them because I bought them and sold them. It was a game I played—a very profitable game, too, and it was well worth it. Those corporations paid every penny of tax that they were supposed to pay because I knew as a corporation I had a privilege and I knew I had to pay the tax to keep the corporation going otherwise they’d shut me down so they paid the taxes and I made money. I made good money in the liquor business. That was a very profitable—I wouldn’t have one today. The world is too much different today. People’s attitudes are too much different today. I wouldn’t have a place like that. It’s not a worthwhile investment today. We got these medical offices. They are under licenses and privileges and under corporate statuses and they pay their taxes. They have to because there’s still money in pushing drugs and there’s a legitimate way to do it. It’s called a doctor’s license. They can push drugs and people are dumb enough to buy the drugs and use them and go to doctors. Doctors aren’t very bright. They don’t know much about the body but they do know a whole lot about which drug you should take if you have this ailment so people go to them and as long as they are there’s money to be
made in that racket but that racket has to pay taxes and it does. I would not avoid much less evade those taxes in any way because I know better. I know you’d get in trouble. I know you’d lose what you got in the long run. But the private individual that works for a company that doesn’t have any of these privileges is not covered under the taxing authority of Congress yet the IRS imposes taxes on everybody, don’t they? They have bothered people about flea markets and yard sales. They want people who have yard sales to go get a license so that they’ll pay taxes on the money they make in their yard sale. They’re selling their own private property in a yard sale. IRS is way beyond their authority in doing things like this. Back in the mid-1990s in some of the seminars that I was teaching I brought up Title 5, United States Code, Section 703. That is the authority for judicial review of agency actions. I taught it, I put it out there, I showed people it was available. This is how you challenge what an agency is doing. I gave details about how it was done right from the Code Book and what the code says about how to do it—it’s an equitable action. It’s not in statutory law, it’s in equity. In equity if there is a wrong the courts will rule against the wrong. Nobody’s ever picked up on it. Nobody’s ever followed it. These are the kinds of things that worried me, made the problem worse with my research trying to find a way to get people out of their troubles that they get themselves into by dealing in some of this stuff that they shouldn’t even be dealing in. This part of what’s worn me down over the years because nobody picks up on the hard way to do something, the only way to do something. The only way is going to be a hard way. It’s not going to be easy for you. You got to do some studying. You got to actually strain your brainstem a little bit and learn something. You can’t just listen to a moron running his mouth and think you can go into court and run your mouth the same way he does. Most people can’t do that anyway. They can’t even remember what they heard and repeat it. But if they get it half way down they go into court and try it, they bring up all kinds of stupid arguments and none of them are worth two cents. This bullshit about having symbols and flags and all that kind of crap, that was another waste of time and effort. That has nothing to do with what the law says. How you put commas or dashes or something in your name has nothing to do with what the law says. This patriot crap, it just puts people off in the wrong direction, creates more problems. But listen to what this case said. This case is Rodriquez v. Jay Donovan. Jay Donovan was apparently the federal employment compensation department head. Rodriquez had been released from a government job and considered to be disabled and was collecting compensation. Then somebody said that he was making money working in a job so they terminated his compensation. He sued them for a lack of due process—interesting case. Has nothing to do with what the guy said it had to do with but listen to this comment that the court made. The court said that the courts have long indulged in a presumption favoring judicial review of agency actions. The Supreme Court has stated only upon a showing of a clear and convincing evidence of a contrary legislative intent should the courts restrict access to judicial review. I just told you about the IRS and what they’re doing. There is plenty of evidence that what they’re doing is contrary to the legislative intent and only upon a convincing evidence that there is no contrary intent should the courts restrict access to the judicial review. The courts repeated several cases Abbot Laboratories v. Garner 387 US Rpts, p. 136. And Accord Lindahl v. the Office of Personnel Management and they didn’t have a US Reports on that. They have 105 Supreme Court Reports, p. 1620. And Dunlop v. Bachowski and that’s 421 US Rpts, p. 560. Those cases all say the same thing, the court will give a judicial review when—and here’s the statement of when that the court
made—the presumption in favor of judicial review is especially strong in cases in which constitutional challenges are raised. Constitutional questions obviously are unsuited to resolution in administrative hearing procedures and therefore access to the courts is essential to a decision of such questions. And that’s Califano v. Sanders 430 US Rpts, p. 99. Now, I didn’t know about this case. As a matter of fact this case is not really that old. I’ll go back and see when it was—1985. It’s old enough. This not one of them that I had cited in the past to explain judicial review but the constitutional question of due process is that statute that they’re applying to me, applicable to me. It goes right back to the Chicago Railroad v. the School District in Colorado that the codes, laws, rules and regulations of government apply only to government. If you’re not government those code don’t apply to you. I don’t care if it’s the property tax code, the IRS income tax code, the traffic code, the puppy dog code. The regulations of government apply inside of government to government only. Government has no authority. We discussed this before. I have read what Madison wrote about the Constitution in Paper No. 39 of the Federalist Papers. He explained that the government was federal and had its own individual authority and the people in their private capacity, the general citizenry, were private and they had their own authority and neither one of them were to be mixed. We have mixed and we’ve allowed the mix and we haven’t put a stop to it. I can understand why some people with very little mentality and possibly some mental disorders might get angry enough to go shoot some of these people. That’s wrong even though you can probably brush it off like is probably going to happen with this case in Arizona. They’ll brush it off and put him in a mental institution. It’s still wrong. ~~The government, themselves, should execute their own people and there should be executions. Some of these people in government should be executed in the public square for the wrongs that they’re doing. They are definitely in breach of their public trust which we talked about last week. That breach is an equitable question and the only way you can bring a judicial review of agency action is through an equitable question. Look at Title 5, United States Code, Section 703 and it gives you the list of equitable actions to use for a judicial review and they’re all equitable actions. They’re not statutory actions, they’re not at-law actions, they’re equitable. Equity rules the law, it controls the law to make sure the law doesn’t get illegal, isn’t improperly used. These are the procedures that can be used. Here’s the other statement that I marked in it. The Federal Employee Compensation Agency clearly does not require exhaustion of administrative remedies as a prerequisite to the district court’s jurisdiction for administrative review. As we noted above the FECA precludes federal jurisdiction with regard to merits of a compensation claim but we hold today that the FECA was not intended to preclude jurisdiction over due process challenges such as Mr. Rodriquez raises here. Due process challenges come under the judicial review under equity pleadings determining whether or not the statutory law applies to you because it’s intended by the legislative intent to apply to the private individual. Well, it can’t be intended to apply to the private individual and Congress knows that and Congress does not pass—well, they’ve made a mistake a few times and been declared unconstitutional but very rarely has anything they’ve done been declared unconstitutional. For instance let’s go back to the income tax. The income tax has been challenged many times for its constitutionality from many different angles and every time it’s been determined to be constitutional. It indeed is because the income tax laws only apply to imposts, duties and excises—privileges from government mainly. The presumption is you
have a privilege. You must or you wouldn’t be there arguing with them. You’re not rebutting that presumption by asking for an administrative action to be reviewed judicially as to their authority to implement this statute upon you, the private individual. We’ve done everything backwards for so long and the leaders that teach all this stuff out here are leading people in the wrong direction 99% of the time. I think I complemented a couple of them last week for finally learning to read the law and understand the law and use the law properly. But it’s only a couple. The majority of these leaders over the years have not bothered to study the law, to understand what the law says can be done or to do it properly. This breach of trust as we get deeper and deeper into it and study more and more of it is going to show you what kinds of things you can bring under a judicial review of an agency’s action to prove that they are in breach of the trust. And by the way, the book says that they are personally liable for any injury that they cause as a trustee from their own assets. I really feel sorry for that lady Congressman that was shot in the head that she’s going through a lot worse pain, at least she’ll know she went through worse pain when she comes out of the coma and the family’s going through a lot worse pain than what is necessary. But there’d be plenty of pain when they ended up out on the street homeless because somebody took everything away from them, everything they own away from them for their breach of trust, their breach of fiduciary duty. That was the main thrust of what I was going to talk about tonight. I wasn’t going to get into the breach of trust and try to mix it with this. If you don’t understand this, call me. Email Dave and ask some questions about it or something. If you didn’t get the quote of the section of the Code e-mail us. We’ll tell you where to find it, tell you where to find this case. This case is not that important. It’s just the ones I just quoted to you, the ones that are important. E-mail Dave and ask him for it or call me or call Dave. One of us will get back to you one way or another. If Dave doesn’t have the answer he’ll send it over to me and I’ll answer it and send it on to you. . . . {03:10:40.193} [Howard] Actually, the best execution is for people like you and I to bring charges against them for breach of trust and here’s what this thing said: Even though they can operate to the exclusion of us telling them what to do. It goes on to say, so that where the trust instrument gives the cestui que trust no power to interfere with the trustee the cestui que trust—meaning beneficiary—cannot control the trustee’s action in administering the trust. We have no power –haven’t you notice that? We can’t tell this government what to do. It does whatever the hell it wants to do. {or could that be what Wall Street wants?} ignoring us so this fits, doesn’t it? It goes on to say: In any event the only authority which the trust beneficiary can assert on behalf of the estate is one which the fiduciary possesses. Acts within the scope of the authority of the trustee bind the trust property and the beneficiary. And ordinarily notice to the former, meaning the trustee, will be deemed notice to the latter, meaning the beneficiary. And although this rule is inapplicable in some circumstances—then they quote a court case about that— however beneficiaries are not bound by the trustee’s unlawful omissions or acts. The beneficiaries are not bound by these wrongful acts that they are doing and you need to know that. If you can’t find corpus juris secundum –sooner or later I’m going to put all this
stuff on people_looking_for_the_truth and perhaps some of it will be on Dave’s www.peoples-rights.com . [Dave] The new website is www.escape-tickets-IRS-court.org .
[Howard] And you know what, this is a way to put on there to help people to escape because using the judicial review as a counter-complaint within a complaint made against you, a request for judicial review of the agency’s action and a determination in equity of the rightfulness of what they’ve done. They have breached the trust—that throws everything into equity because trusts are always sitting in equity—and show that you are the beneficiary. You’re not part of them. So, you’re the beneficiary and you are not bound by them, the trustees’ unlawful omissions or acts and acts done or knowledge acquired by the trustee cannot be inputted to the cestui que beneficiary for whom the trustee was not at the time acting. So, if he’s acting for his own good, his own benefit which is what they’re doing with our property. They’re using it for their own benefit, not for yours. They’re investing our property and making profits off of it. Have you ever gotten a check for the profits? I haven’t. They never sent me any money and said, ‘here, this is what we made off of investing your land, your automobile, your business license—nothing, have they ever acknowledged they have invested it and made money? They kept the money that they made off of me. And I guarantee you with all the businesses I was in they made money off of me. Anyway, it goes on to say: A trustee cannot make a binding admission against the interest of the beneficiary… and there’s a court case that backs that up. …or which will estop him from performing his duties as a trustee and where a trust has been created and a trust appointed and given possession of the trust estate the trust cannot be destroyed by some improper act or omission of the trustee. The trust goes on until you terminate it. But we have the power and the right to terminate those trusts if we wish. Anyway, it goes on to say: And an estoppel may not be invoked against a trustee as to any acts or omissions not within the authority of the trustee. In other words, you can’t make him stop by any other process other than terminating the trust. That’s the only way you can stop it. Although a particular power is conferred on the trustee he cannot properly exercise the power under such circumstances or to such extent or in such manner as will involve a violation of any of his duties to the beneficiary. We are protected but we don’t know it and you’ll never get a lawyer to help you because he’s one of the scum that’s in the trustee position that’s taking advantage of us. So don’t go to a lawyer. You have to learn this stuff
for yourself. You have to learn how to go into court for yourself and bring a countercomplaint against them for breach of their trust. This little paragraph that I just read to you gives you the benefit as the beneficiary of the ability to stop them from executing their claims against you for liability for their debts. And that’s exactly what I’ve told you in years gone by that they’re doing, they’re creating debts and then passing the debts on to you and I. That’s what the taxes are that are imposed upon private people. They’re not taxing their own business operations like they’re supposed to. They’re taxing the private people. They’re passing their debts onto the American society that is not party to government and getting us to support them. They have no right to do this—that’s a breach of their trust. That’s an agency action in an administrative action that cannot be averted in the lower courts. Somebody in one of those e-mails made a comment that there’s no judicial courts in this country. That’s not true. There is a judicial arena within the courts. You just have to open it but the courts are generally administrative and they’ll stay administrative until you open the judicial authority of the court and the only way to open that is in equity with an equity pleading, an equity pleading such as declaratory and injunctive relief or breach of the trust or a writ of prohibition. Look at Title 5, United States Code, Section 703. It gives you the whole list of equitable actions that can be taken to question the due process of government officials in following the trust and doing what they’re supposed to do under the trust document which is the Constitution. If we went after every member of Congress we could clean those people out because there’s another section in here that I think I read to you last week and I don’t know where to put my fingers on it right now, but I think it came out of Bouvier’s Law Dictionary and a couple of cases that were cited in there that said that the trustee is personally liable for the wrongs that he does, not the United States government and there’s no sense in suing the government. No wonder these court cases get thrown out of court very quickly for suing the state or suing the federal government because, first of all, the governments are fictions. Fictions don’t do anything and fictions don’t hurt anybody and fictions can’t be hurt so they can’t sue you for hurting a fiction but they do it all the time and get away with it. You violated a state law, you violated a federal law, you got to pay a penalty or go to jail, and they get away with this stuff and the fact is you didn’t violate any person. A lot of these charges that they bring against you are for not paying the tax to the fiction. They have no right—that’s a breach of their fiduciary duty when they bring those kinds of things. That is binding you and your estate to their debts and they have the power to do this and they’re getting away with it simply because we don’t know enough to show them that as beneficiaries they can’t hold us liable. Look this section up on your own. If you can’t find it contact us and we’ll send you a photocopy of it and the court cases cited or wait a little while and I will get this all on some type of computer printout that’s legible that we can put on people_looking_for_the_truth {yahoo group} or www.peoples-rights.com for you to download. This is got to be free information because this is right out of their textbooks. This is not something that anybody could sell. They’ve already sold us a bill of goods and destroyed our lifestyle through that bill of goods. This is something that people should learn and get for nothing to defeat the bill of goods that government has sold us. And it’s not government—I keep telling you this—there is nothing wrong with this government itself. It is these corrupt dirty people that are in it that have twisted it and bent it out of shape, deformed it in such a way that they are benefiting from it and destroying us, the true beneficiaries. We can put a stop to it, it can be done and we don’t have to go shoot
politicians. That other e-mail that he was reading had a little bit of a twist to it that I was unaware of. I didn’t know that Gabriel Gifford had stood up against the drug cartels. There is a good possibility that that was a planned hit on her to shut her up and stop her from going against the drug cartels. That’s a very good possibility. I don’t know that that’s correct. I really haven’t looked into this very far. I care that somebody was harmed, that some people died, I do care but I don’t care enough to get involved in the investigation because there is going to be too much twisted, bent out of shape bullshit information related to it. They will cover up anything that is real. I know this. I have seen how these investigations go and they cover things up all the time. I wouldn’t trust these people to do the investigation by government as far as I could throw them and I doubt if—most people are bigger and heavier than I am—I couldn’t throw them very far so I wouldn’t trust them as far as I could throw them. And I don’t have the time to go personally investigate and don’t have the initiative to go personally investigate it. I feel very sorry for Gabriel and the judge (Roll) and the little nine-year-old girl and the other ones that were killed—this was wrong. I have a feeling from what that e-mail said about her that she was standing up against some of the evils. She must have been a good person and you want to look out because any politician that stands up against the evils and show you that he’s a good person will be done away with sooner or later. They’ll push him out of office or her out of office or they’ll kill him, they’ll kill their children because they threaten them with things like that. We’re up against a very evil element that has done all these things but that evil element cannot enforce their debt claims against you and throw the burden of liability against you and your estate for the very reason I just read to you because the trustee cannot make a binding admission against the interest of the beneficiary—that’s you and I. We’re the beneficiaries. Interesting, Dave, this is another New York court case, Johnson v. A L Erianger Realty Corporation 296 NY Sup Ct., book 89. It can also be found at 162 Misc. NY Reports and page 881 backing up that statement. Now, these are old quotes. This book is not up to date with the newest information. I’m sure with Google research you could probably find newer cases to back that up and I’ll guarantee you these courts when you get up into the judicial level of judicial examinations of things like this they don’t change. The history of this country has not changed at the higher levels. It has only changed at the lower level where lawyers can corrupt the system. Judges will help them to corrupt the system at the lower level and cheat the American people out of their wealth and their property and they’ve done a great job of it. They’ve almost ruined the country. And I know two steps that can be taken that’ll ruin the rest of it. I hope we don’t have to implement those two steps. That might be what it’ll take. It might take a catastrophic event that destroys the ability to live normally to wake people up. I hope it doesn’t have to go that far but there’s a way to create a catastrophic event. This system is so vulnerable. Because of its corruption it’s so vulnerable. A little bit of a disruption in one area could multiply so fast that it could bring down almost everything that’s presently going on. And if it did I would shut everything down except the money. The money would still be there but you couldn’t get any of it. It’ll be so easy to shut it down. We may need to do that but I hope not. That will cause a lot of discomfort for a lot of people that will be unbearable. I think it might end up with a lot of suicides. We’re going to end up with a lot of suicides anyway as this thing unwinds and folds up on its own but I don’t want to cause that any sooner than what is going to happen naturally. But something’s got to wake these people up. Something’s got to make people realize what I’m teaching you about the trust and that you’re the
beneficiary of the government trust. It has nothing to do with you setting up your own trust. I’m not trying to sell you a trust. I have the ability to put together trusts for people who want them for their own private use but there’s no such thing as a private trust. There is more rhetoric and bullshit out there by a couple of people teaching. I’ve been looking into this and listening to some of this crap that these people that talk about trusts have to say. They have no idea what they’re talking about—they’ve never read the law of trusts. I don’t know where they get this stupid information that they get. So beware of anybody promoting a trust for you. You’re living in a trust already. The government is in a trust position looking out for you. Make them do it right. That’s all you have to do and you will find out that you have the freedom in life to live comfortably providing that you’re willing to put out an effort and do things for yourself and produce. If you’re a lazy bum and you don’t want to produce you’re going to perish—that’s nature—there’s nothing wrong with that. Animals do that. The weakest animal dies—that’s nature. The weakest of people – let’s put it that way because all people are not humans, thank God. If it gets to that point it’ll be the point that the Bible talks about that there’ll be nothing left for God to come back for because humans are not God’s people. But anyway, until we get to that point, another two generations—by the way, a generation is seventy years. So in two more seventy year generations all of God’s people would disappear if He doesn’t come very soon and do something about this. We have to do something, right now, to get us by and avoid these liabilities and I’ve just told you the direction to go in. Now, if you don’t listen, you don’t understand, or you’re going to get on this call after I get off of here and talk about some bullshit that somebody else is putting out then I know you didn’t learn a damned thing by listening to me. So, those people who do those kinds of things don’t bother to get back on the call next week—we don’t need you, the American people don’t need you. We got to narrow this down to the ones that have the gumption and brains to do what’s necessary. We don’t imbeciles to go off in tangent directions. We need people who will stand up that’ll understand what’s going on and bring forth the exposure of what’s going on—that’s what we really need, not bull crap. Our time is very limited to do this. This system is collapsing quickly. If we don’t wake the people up, show them what’s wrong, show them how to stand on their own there will be major disasters in the very near future. You don’t have to believe me. Just do a little bit of study in the directions I’ve studied in and you’ll see. This economic system is very, very touchy right now. It wouldn’t take much to tip it completely over and they’re doing the wrong things. They will tip it over on their own. We could force it earlier but no need to do that, they’ll do it on their own. The fact that they will take time doing it gives us time to teach more people what position we’re really in and how to protect yourself so it’s better that we leave it alone. Let it go on its own. But you got to start listening. You got to start paying attention. You got to start doing a little bit of studying on your own. You got to pay attention. Don’t look for some shortcut method, some easy stupid thing like write across it, accepted for value. The only thing that’s going to do is get you in more trouble. Although a lot of people fell for that they’re now beginning to realize that it didn’t work and it wasn’t going to work. Whoever’s promoting that kind of crap, you should get away from them and stay away from them.
