2011 Mar 17 - Howard Griswold Conference Call
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Howard Griswold Conference Call—Thursday, March 17, 2011 Partial Howard Griswold Conference calls: 218-844-3388 pin 966771# (6 mutes & un-mutes), Thursday’s at 8 p.m., Eastern Time. ‘6’ Mutes and un-mutes
Conference Call is simulcast on:
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Note: there is a hydrate water call Monday’s, same time and number and pin #. Howard’s home number: 302-875-2653 (between 9:30, a.m, and 7:00, p.m.)
Mickey’s debt collection call is 8:00 p.m., Eastern Time, Wednesday night. The number is 712 – 432 – 8773 and the pin number is 947975#.
Mickey Paoletta’s cell number is 717-979-3061 Check out: www.escapeharrassment.com www.escape-tickets-IRS-court.org All correspondence to: Gemini Investment Research Group, POB 398, Delmar, Del. 19940 (do not address mail to ‘Howard Griswold’ since Howard has not taken up residence in that mailbox and since he’s on good terms with his wife he isn’t likely to in the foreseeable future.) "All" Howard's and GEMINI RESEARCH's information through the years, has been gathered, combined and collated into 3 "Home-Study Courses" and "Information packages" listed at www.peoples-rights.com "Mail Order" DONATIONS and/or Toll-Free 1-877-544-4718 (24 Hours F.A.Q. line) Dave DiReamer can be reached at: [email protected] Peoples-rights has a new book available from The Informer: Just Who Really Owns the United States, the International Monetary Fund, Federal Reserve, World Bank, Your House, Your Car, Everything—the Myth and the Reality. He’ll take $45 for the book to help with ads, but $40 would be ok which includes shipping ($35 barebones minimum) www.peoples-rights.com c/o 1624 Savannah Road, Lewes, Delaware 19958 ********************
Christian Walters (trusts) is on Mondays, Tuesdays and Saturdays at nine o'clock, Eastern Time. The number is 1-712-432-0075 and the pin is 149939# (9 pm EST). Wednesday’s number is 1-724-444-7444 and the pin is 41875# (8 pm, Eastern) or
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For donations to desert, send them to Free America Radio Network, 121 Seaparc Circle, Suite B, Kingsland, Georgia 31548. Phone number: 912-882-2142. Cell: 304-629-7169. For reference: Jersey City v. Hague, 115 Atlantic Reporter 2nd, page 8 (A 2nd ) ***************************************************** Start ***************************************************** { 02:21:37.017} [Howard] A couple of weeks ago I was reading to you out of Title 15, United States Code, Section 1122 about the waiver of immunity of the United States. That is specifically for a couple of commercial functions. It is not a general waiver of immunity. It is very concentrated. Now, that is related also to the 11th Amendment which also happens to be— and you ought to listen to Rod Class and what he’s discussing about this 11th Amendment. He is really starting to get on track and picking up some specific details and learning and he’s doing great. We’ve all made mistakes. Howard’s made mistakes over the years. We’ve learned to correct those mistakes. Rod is learning to correct his mistakes and learning very rapidly. I’m telling you things are coming together so fast today. I don’t think Rod or some of the other ones that are very advanced are able to keep up. I’m not. It’s coming in so fast. Knowledge is just opening up to us in all kinds of ways. It’s hard to keep up with it all but we are learning and we’re correcting some of our previous mistakes and we’re teaching in a much better realm than what we were before. Now, there are a bunch of screwballs out there that are still teaching the wrong things. Be very careful of some of the crap that you pick up on the internet and some of these conference call speakers and stuff like that. Some of them are really out in left field so be very, very careful please. Don’t just believe it because you heard it. Start checking into it. Don’t even trust what Dave and I are telling you. Do a little research on your own. Make sure we’re right because we still make mistakes. None of us know all of it. We don’t have every specific detail down pat but Rod
is coming along very well with what he’s teaching about the 11th Amendment. He’s finally realized that what that really means is the government cannot bring any kind of claims against you in your private capacity. It can only bring claims against government people. Well, that’s exactly what I’ve been teaching you over the years that all government rules, statutes, codes and regulations apply to only people in the government and government property. It does not apply to you in your private capacity or to you and your private property. But they are misapplying them in the wrong manner and they’ve been getting away with doing this for a long time because education made us very stupid people. We have been taught to go along to get along. We have been taught to use our brain for their benefit, not to have a brain of our own and think for ourselves and if you do that you’re a terrorist—you’re opposed to them, you’re wrong. Well, slowly this concept is reversing. As it’s reversing we’re all learning more. There really is a total waiver of immunity by the United States for suits against the United States for money damages because they did something wrong to the people. Now, there’s a long story to this and you’ll just have to take my word for it for the time being but I’d like you check this out, go back into history and study about it. Abraham Lincoln was not such a bad guy as some of these people would like to portray him as being a bad guy. Before 1855 no general statute gave consent by the United States to a suit on claims for money damages against the United States. The only recourse available was for private claims to petition the Congress for relief. There was no way to do it through the courts whatsoever. Abraham Lincoln established the court of claims during the Civil War for people whose property had been taken without just compensation during the war for any reason including military reasons. It was set up originally that you could file the claim in the court and this would relieve Congress from having to hear all the specific details of it and once the court made a decision they would then turn it over to Congress and Congress would determine whether or not to pay you the money damages for the injury that the United States government through its military troops or other agencies had caused to you. That’s what the court of claims was set up for and President Lincoln set up the Court of Claims, originally and put it all into Congress and Congress followed through and did what he suggested to do. In 1861, during the Civil War, President Lincoln recommended that the court be authorized to render final judgments. He declared that is as much a duty of government to render prompt justice against itself in favor of the citizens as it is to administer the same between private individuals. And the Court of Claims jurisdiction was increased but it still only had final judgment to the extent that their judgment had to be reviewed by Congress to determine the amount to be paid and who would be paid so the burden was still on Congress. In 1886 Representative John Randolph Tucker introduced a bill to revise in several respects the jurisdiction and procedures of the Court of Claims and to replace most of the provisions that were provided in the 1855 and 1863 acts. It took two years from Lincoln’s proposal to finally get it together so it was 1863 before the act was passed and that act was House Joint Resolution 6974 in the 49th Congress, first session. And it came up in 1886 and the House Judiciary Committee at that time reported that the bill was a comprehensive measure by which claims against the United States may be heard and determined entirely in the Court of Claims. Now, a little bit latter on somebody else made a proposal which gave the same jurisdiction to the United States District Courts and the Court of Claims had. So both the district court and the Court of Claims have what they call continuous and simultaneous jurisdiction over these kinds of claims. The Tucker Act ended up eventually after it was
passed provided for the bringing of suits against the government of the United States for money damages to be completely heard and determined by the Court of Claims and then later on this US District Court jurisdiction was made synonymous with that jurisdiction. Now, anybody filing a complaint for money damages for any injury caused by the United States could, in fact, sue the United States but it was considered, it was only for what was listed in the Tucker Act. The court goes on to say in this particular case that I’m reading, for decades this court consistently interpreted the Tucker Act as having provided the consent of the United States to be sued for classes of claims described in the act. And, believe it or not, the majority of the claims described in that act were the taking of private property without just compensation in violation of the 5th Amendment. That was what Abraham Lincoln set up. It went beyond that and the court goes on to say, in the last two recent decisions this court explicitly stated that the Tucker Act affects a waiver of sovereign immunity—by the way, people who claim they’re sovereign or a bunch of bullshit, the governments are sovereign. Sovereignty rests with the controlling authority. The controlling authority is the king in England and the king here in the United States is called the US government. Anyway, it was a waiver of their sovereign immunity for the government so that they could be sued. These decisions confirmed the unanimous thrust of the history of the act and determined that the government could be sued for any wrongs that they did to the individual and private people. So there is a waiver of sovereign immunity. It’s called the Tucker Act and somewhere here it states where it’s codified, and I don’t like using the Code reference but anyway it’s codified at 28 United States Code, Section 1491. That’s the Tucker Act, a waiver of immunity from being sued by the United States. Now, listen to me and listen close, the US District Court has jurisdiction to hear similar type claims but the Court of Claims of the United States’ jurisdiction is restricted to claims against the United States government. You cannot take a claim against a state government into the United States Court of Claims. It doesn’t have the jurisdiction to hear them and it was never established for them to have that jurisdiction but the United States District Court jurisdiction is established under the 14th Amendment to extend the Bill of Rights of the United States including the 4th and 5th Amendments to the states. So the United States District Court has an even superior jurisdiction. They can hear all the claims against the United States that you might make for money damages and they can hear any claims that you might make against the states for money damages because of injuries caused by the state governments and their political subdivisions like the city, the county, the town governments and such. Under the 14 Amendment which extended the Bill of Rights of the United States Constitution to the states. So, the US District Court can hear these complaints against the state. The Court of Claims cannot. The Court of Claims or the US District Court can both hear claims against the United States government for any injury that they have caused you. The whole basis of this to be put together in the first place by Abraham Lincoln was because during the Civil War there was a lot of taking of private property by military personnel in and during the Civil War. And to recover your private property that had been damaged or taken in any way during the Civil War this was opened up. Well, it’s still there. It hasn’t been done away with. It still can hear any kind of a claim against government for the taking of your private property. This is really the only problem we have in America. They are controlling us through our property. This is a waiver of immunity of the United States government and the state governments through the 14th Amendment to be able to sue them for the taking of your private property. The breach of
trust that I have been talking about for the last couple of weeks and the establishment of a constructive trust and enforcement of it to recover private property all falls under this category of a waiver of their immunity. They have no way to stand on what you might call their laurels and claim they have any immunity, providing, of course, that you state this in the complaint that the immunity has been waived by these statutes. They are suable. I hope Dave is touch with Rod Class and extends this information to him along with what he found in Title 15, Section 1122, because this is even more powerful. It is a general waiver of immunity rather than a specific one like Title 15, Section 1122 sets forth. Dave, do that for me please. Let him know about this. It’s called the Tucker Act, Title 28, United States Code, Section 1491. The government has allowed themselves to be suable. Now, prior to 1855 there was no general statute that gave consent of the United States to be sued on any kind of claims, at all, but interestingly enough in the discussions that went on in Congress at that time they commented that all other nations of the world have already allowed the people to sue their government for a redress of grievances against the government except this country. We’re a little bit behind in getting things done, aren’t we? Even that far back we were behind in getting things done. This is important to the discussions that we’ve been having lately about suing them for breach of their trustee and fiduciary duties. They have a duty to be honest—I chuckle every time I say that—and to be loyal to the instrument that created the trust that the government is. All governments are in a trust position. They are there for the protection of the people that are under them as a government. Now, I’ll grant you they’re not under us. I’m able to tell you that they’re not under us. They are superior to us because they are our parents, our protectors, our guardians. They’re over us. Their duty is to stay over us and protect us as beneficiaries of the public trust. And that’s what some of these court cases like Jersey City v. Hague have stated that is the duty of government officials to protect us as beneficiaries and when they fail that duty they are personally liable for their wrongful acts. There are suable and through the 14th Amendment the states are suable in the US District Court so I wouldn’t play with the state courts if I were you and very specifically in the Court of Claims they are liable as federal government officials for the wrongs that they do. Their dishonesty and their disloyalty to the trust instrument is what basically creates the breach of trust and breach of fiduciary duty. It doesn’t matter if they breach that duty to themselves, their own government, by doing wrongs against the government or if they breach that duty in doing wrongs against the citizenry which are the beneficiaries of the trust—it still applies. Interestingly enough, several weeks ago I helped somebody to create a little bit of a document relating to a constructive trust and they submitted it to their lawyer and he said, ‘no, no, no, no, no, this isn’t going to work. We can’t do it this way.’ It shows you they’re scared to death of this trust stuff. But this person happened to have a friend whose husband is a government lawyer and she sent a copy over to her friend who showed it to her husband and his comments were, ‘this guy really knows what he’s doing.’ Now, he wasn’t on the short end of the stick of what we had put together. He was able to be a little bit honest about it. The one that was on the short end of the stick he didn’t want anything to do with it because these lawyers are scared to death of anything to do with this trust stuff because if you ever prove any kind of a breach of trust by government you’ll be able to prove that every damned lawyer is a corrupt no good son-ofa-bitch that is breaching the trust constantly. They are dishonest and they are disloyal to the instrument that created the trust which is the Constitution. Lawyers are really your problem. Now, when it comes to health doctors are your problem. When it comes to
spirituality religion and preachers are your problem. But when it comes to the law lawyers are your problem if you don’t take the time to put a little effort and study into this area of trust. Now, I’m getting some of this stuff together and starting to make photocopies so I can send it out to people. I’m starting to accrue a little bit of money toward paying some girls to type this stuff up into the computers so that we can put it out for free downloads on the computer. It has to be a free download. Most of the stuff coming out of these books are copyrighted books. We can’t sell it. No matter how much I’d like to do that to make a dollar or two to keep this going I can’t do that. We have to make it a free download and I don’t care. I’ll make it a free download. I want people to learn and understand it. I’d like to get an extra dollar or two in here to help support more research but that’s all right, it’ll come from somewhere. God provides in some silly way or another. Whatever we need at the time that God is willing to give us this expansion of knowledge, it’ll come. We don’t have to do this to make money. We can provide it in a free way and this is what I’m trying to do. Right now I need a few donations to help me to pay these girls to do all the typing. When I get enough together and I got a couple of girls that have volunteered to do some help but they got to support their own families. They got to pay their bills. They need a couple of dollars. They don’t need to be paid any exorbitant amount like lawyers charge or anything like that. We got to give them something. And as the money’s coming in I’m getting things together and I’m making some photocopies right now to make it available to people, putting it together so it sort of makes sense. It’s going to make a lot more sense if we can put it all together and make it a free download. I’m putting enough together in photocopies that we can send it out to some people. I’m slow at getting this done because, remember, I’m the only one doing it. I really don’t think I can do it any faster by teaching somebody what to look for because by the time I teach them I could have done it myself. It’s slowly coming together. I think there is a time for all of this. I think that this is what will be the demise of many of the governments around the entire world that are corrupt, not just in this country because we’re not the only ones suffering with this corruption. All governments are operating under a paper phony money system. They’re all operating under the commercial codes related to negotiable instruments and the flow of negotiable instruments in commerce. Negotiable instruments are not real, they represent something real but they’re not real. And the use of them in the way they’re doing it does, in fact, constitute a taking of our private property for their public use without just compensation. The monetization of all the properties that we register with government is a taking of our private property without just compensation. It’s actually worse today than what the military had to do during the Civil War to take over people’s property and use it for a fort to defend the government’s stand and such that they did back then. Things are a hell of a lot worse today. The taking is just overwhelming that’s going on of our private property. We are being extorted in so many different ways and we don’t realize it, we don’t understand it, we think everything is fine. The damned preachers in all types of religion are telling you, you got to have a birth certificate or they won’t bar mitzvah you or they won’t baptize you or whatever their silly little religious things are that you want done to your children that you ought to stay the hell away from. But you participate. You think these things are great. And you got to have a birth certificate. Religion pushed you into that. Well, that’s where the monetization of your body comes from, the registration of the birth certificate. Religions are just as damned corrupt as the rest of these governments and lawyers are. Stay away from religion as best you can and don’t go off into these non-denominational and think
you’re any better off. They’re just as corrupt. They’re teaching the same bull crap. You’re not any better off. But anyway, knowledge would make you better off. Go study and read and learn on your own. You will find out slowly if you apply yourself but if you keep your religious views while you’re reading it you still won’t learn anything. You’ll still be suffering with distortions. So be careful. Please be careful. Anyway, as we put this together we’re going to have some forms available. We’ll be able to send the forms out to you. We’ll be able to send some court cases out to you that show you how these things are viewed by the courts. We’ll be able to send some statutory information out to you like the Tucker Act to show you where and how the jurisdiction is established to waive their immunity. We can put all this stuff together for you. You have to put it together with the story of what happened to you because your story is unique. If you can’t write the story down then don’t even get involved. You’re going to have to explain the story. I didn’t experience the story, you did. I can’t write it for you. No lawyer is going to do this for you. He couldn’t write the story anyway. There are ways to accomplish these things. There are ways to bring these suits and this will help to bring the corruption to a stop. We need to do these kinds of things. It’s important. Remember that the Bible tells us that God doesn’t do anything. He sits there watching and I’ll bet you He is laughing so hard He’s choking and gagging because He’s laughing so hard at some of the stupid stuff that His people that He created are involved in doing down here. But it does tell us that God works through His people. Things only happen because of what God’s people do. The only way we’re going to expose the evil and put a stop to this and destroy it is by being God’s servant and doing what is intended to be done. It’s our duty to expose this. The rest of the people are so damned stupid. At first a lot of them are not going to accept it or believe it. But slowly things will wake some of those people up. Some people will never wake up. It’s not intended that they will. They are not God’s people. The Bible is full of stories about God’s children and God’s people and God’s creation and God’s enemies. That is two different groups of people that exist here on this planet. Everybody is not God’s people. The enemies, the evil, are the ones in power today. And the only way to stop them and put them out of commission is for God’s people that He works through to take action and do something. We’re putting pieces together. It certainly looked for years like there wasn’t any hope. This has been very discouraging over the 31 years that I’ve been involved in this but I knew our Creator wouldn’t let us down. Someday the knowledge would be given to us and it’s starting to break open and numerous people are getting pieces of it, not just me. I’m not the only one. I’m not a favorite in God’s eyes or anything like that, I’m not anything special but there are a group of people that are God’s people that He is giving the information to, to spread to the rest of God’s people and to help them all to move and do something about this. Hopefully we can keep this in as little as violent situation as possible but I don’t think so because I think God’s enemies are going to become violent as they’re beginning to fall and lose their power. So prepare for rough times. Prepare for your own medications that you may need. Prepare for food supply. I have taught for years that everybody should buy a book that tells you what wild plants {and bugs} are edible that grow in the area where you live throughout the seasons because even in winter in cold weather there are things that grow that are edible {not bugs} in the cold climate. There are good things that grow and you need to learn how to dry them and then reconstitute them by putting them in water. {Spout seeds} You have to know how to purify and clean the water and tonight’s discussion about the coffee filters was a big help in helping to purify the
water and the Clorox, just a tablespoon in a gallon of water. This is not going to hurt you. {Clorox is also useful to get rid of radiation, as well as clay, sodium bicarbonate, chlorella (top item), spirulina, barley grass, wheatgrass, cilantro, seaweed miso, modifilan, kombu, green tea, ALA, etc.} It’s not enough to be harmful to you but it will kill the contamination that might be in the water. So you need to learn and realize those kinds of things. We’re going to have some rough times in the near future. Things are not going to stay as we have known them to be. {The radiation in Japan has given some people 100 miles south of the nukes radiation poisoning and people in Hawaii who are sensitive to thyroid problems are noticing the radiation and some radiation has been noted in the Los Angeles area as of March 18, 2011.} {Look on the positive side, we’ll save on flashlights since we’ll be glowing in the dark.} Things are changing, you need to prepare but along the way until it all happens we need to go after some of these government officials and expose through the courts—that’s about all the good the court’s are there for, to expose this—and surprisingly enough the news media is reporting things that I never thought that they would ever talk about. They’re actually degrading {berating?} government. They’re actually picking on government’s wrongdoing today. It will get out through the news media, today, if we bring some of these suits against some high-ranking government officials. Now, I’m talking about Congress and judges and people like that, not necessarily going after the President. He’s not even worth going after. He is a puppet, a poor fool. It doesn’t matter what his name is, every president that we’ve had in there at least since the Civil War, since Lincoln was killed, every president since then has been nothing but a puppet for the control factions that are behind the scenes controlling everything. It’s no sense going after the president. He’s not really the big wheel. Don’t worry about him. No matter what his name is don’t worry about him. Go after the ones that are doing the acts like judges, police officers, lawyers and politicians, Congressmen and state legislators that have created laws that are vague and incompetent to show the purpose and intent of the law and allowing for the misuse of the law. Those kinds of things can be attacked and approached very easily for breach of fiduciary and trust duty. So, look at these forms as we get them together. Write to Gemini. I’ve given the address many times. Write to Gemini and ask and we’ll mail you a copy. I just ask you to send me a few dollars to cover the cost of mailing and the printing. We’re not doing this to try to make a profit. I don’t want fifty or a hundred dollars or anything like that for a package. Send me five or ten dollars because some of these packages are not small. It will cost me a bit for the copying and the mailing. Mailing might be as much as five bucks on it. That’s all we’re asking. Keep me going, keep me from having to run out of money because I don’t have enough to pay all the mailing costs. That’s all I ask you for. I’m willing to get this information out as far as possible to as many people as possible for your good. I think that other countries will pick up on this very quickly because I think other countries have much more intelligent people than we do. They don’t have the same degraded education system in other countries that we have. They have less education which leaves people with more brain to use. The education in this country clutters people’s brains with so much crap it’s a wonder you can think at all after you’ve got an education. So it will quickly be picked up in other countries and they will realize that their governments are trustees too and that they can go after them in what ever manner their court procedures allow. They’ll pick up on it. We need to get this started and quickly, I think, but then again our Creator may delay this for one reason or another because it’s not really ready for our Creator’s time schedule. I don’t know. But it’s coming through so fast,
right now, and opening up so broadly that I think it’s pretty close to our Creator’s time for knowledge to be expanded throughout the world. So stay tuned. We’ll be back next Thursday night for the law study class. We’ll be back next Monday night for the health and water call. It’s the same phone number for both calls and both calls are at eight o’clock Eastern Time so adjust that to whatever your time schedule is. For now I’m going to say good night and I thank all of you for tuning in.
Conference Call is simulcast on:
www.TheREALPublicRadio.Net Starting in the first hour at 8 p.m.
Note: there is a hydrate water call Monday’s, same time and number and pin #. Howard’s home number: 302-875-2653 (between 9:30, a.m, and 7:00, p.m.)
Mickey’s debt collection call is 8:00 p.m., Eastern Time, Wednesday night. The number is 712 – 432 – 8773 and the pin number is 947975#.
Mickey Paoletta’s cell number is 717-979-3061 Check out: www.escapeharrassment.com www.escape-tickets-IRS-court.org All correspondence to: Gemini Investment Research Group, POB 398, Delmar, Del. 19940 (do not address mail to ‘Howard Griswold’ since Howard has not taken up residence in that mailbox and since he’s on good terms with his wife he isn’t likely to in the foreseeable future.) "All" Howard's and GEMINI RESEARCH's information through the years, has been gathered, combined and collated into 3 "Home-Study Courses" and "Information packages" listed at www.peoples-rights.com "Mail Order" DONATIONS and/or Toll-Free 1-877-544-4718 (24 Hours F.A.Q. line) Dave DiReamer can be reached at: [email protected] Peoples-rights has a new book available from The Informer: Just Who Really Owns the United States, the International Monetary Fund, Federal Reserve, World Bank, Your House, Your Car, Everything—the Myth and the Reality. He’ll take $45 for the book to help with ads, but $40 would be ok which includes shipping ($35 barebones minimum) www.peoples-rights.com c/o 1624 Savannah Road, Lewes, Delaware 19958 ********************
Christian Walters (trusts) is on Mondays, Tuesdays and Saturdays at nine o'clock, Eastern Time. The number is 1-712-432-0075 and the pin is 149939# (9 pm EST). Wednesday’s number is 1-724-444-7444 and the pin is 41875# (8 pm, Eastern) or
tune in on Wednesday at Talkshoe.com at http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=41875&cmd=tc
Often you can find a transcript or a partial one for the week’s call at the following website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peoplelookingforthetruth Howard approves or disapproves all postings to this yahoo group. Send potential posting to Howard.
Note: questions to Howard are now submitted to Howard, preferably typed, to Gemini Research rather than fielded on the call live. It would be desirable to send a couple of bucks for mailing, copying and printing costs.
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For donations to desert, send them to Free America Radio Network, 121 Seaparc Circle, Suite B, Kingsland, Georgia 31548. Phone number: 912-882-2142. Cell: 304-629-7169. For reference: Jersey City v. Hague, 115 Atlantic Reporter 2nd, page 8 (A 2nd ) ***************************************************** Start ***************************************************** { 02:21:37.017} [Howard] A couple of weeks ago I was reading to you out of Title 15, United States Code, Section 1122 about the waiver of immunity of the United States. That is specifically for a couple of commercial functions. It is not a general waiver of immunity. It is very concentrated. Now, that is related also to the 11th Amendment which also happens to be— and you ought to listen to Rod Class and what he’s discussing about this 11th Amendment. He is really starting to get on track and picking up some specific details and learning and he’s doing great. We’ve all made mistakes. Howard’s made mistakes over the years. We’ve learned to correct those mistakes. Rod is learning to correct his mistakes and learning very rapidly. I’m telling you things are coming together so fast today. I don’t think Rod or some of the other ones that are very advanced are able to keep up. I’m not. It’s coming in so fast. Knowledge is just opening up to us in all kinds of ways. It’s hard to keep up with it all but we are learning and we’re correcting some of our previous mistakes and we’re teaching in a much better realm than what we were before. Now, there are a bunch of screwballs out there that are still teaching the wrong things. Be very careful of some of the crap that you pick up on the internet and some of these conference call speakers and stuff like that. Some of them are really out in left field so be very, very careful please. Don’t just believe it because you heard it. Start checking into it. Don’t even trust what Dave and I are telling you. Do a little research on your own. Make sure we’re right because we still make mistakes. None of us know all of it. We don’t have every specific detail down pat but Rod
is coming along very well with what he’s teaching about the 11th Amendment. He’s finally realized that what that really means is the government cannot bring any kind of claims against you in your private capacity. It can only bring claims against government people. Well, that’s exactly what I’ve been teaching you over the years that all government rules, statutes, codes and regulations apply to only people in the government and government property. It does not apply to you in your private capacity or to you and your private property. But they are misapplying them in the wrong manner and they’ve been getting away with doing this for a long time because education made us very stupid people. We have been taught to go along to get along. We have been taught to use our brain for their benefit, not to have a brain of our own and think for ourselves and if you do that you’re a terrorist—you’re opposed to them, you’re wrong. Well, slowly this concept is reversing. As it’s reversing we’re all learning more. There really is a total waiver of immunity by the United States for suits against the United States for money damages because they did something wrong to the people. Now, there’s a long story to this and you’ll just have to take my word for it for the time being but I’d like you check this out, go back into history and study about it. Abraham Lincoln was not such a bad guy as some of these people would like to portray him as being a bad guy. Before 1855 no general statute gave consent by the United States to a suit on claims for money damages against the United States. The only recourse available was for private claims to petition the Congress for relief. There was no way to do it through the courts whatsoever. Abraham Lincoln established the court of claims during the Civil War for people whose property had been taken without just compensation during the war for any reason including military reasons. It was set up originally that you could file the claim in the court and this would relieve Congress from having to hear all the specific details of it and once the court made a decision they would then turn it over to Congress and Congress would determine whether or not to pay you the money damages for the injury that the United States government through its military troops or other agencies had caused to you. That’s what the court of claims was set up for and President Lincoln set up the Court of Claims, originally and put it all into Congress and Congress followed through and did what he suggested to do. In 1861, during the Civil War, President Lincoln recommended that the court be authorized to render final judgments. He declared that is as much a duty of government to render prompt justice against itself in favor of the citizens as it is to administer the same between private individuals. And the Court of Claims jurisdiction was increased but it still only had final judgment to the extent that their judgment had to be reviewed by Congress to determine the amount to be paid and who would be paid so the burden was still on Congress. In 1886 Representative John Randolph Tucker introduced a bill to revise in several respects the jurisdiction and procedures of the Court of Claims and to replace most of the provisions that were provided in the 1855 and 1863 acts. It took two years from Lincoln’s proposal to finally get it together so it was 1863 before the act was passed and that act was House Joint Resolution 6974 in the 49th Congress, first session. And it came up in 1886 and the House Judiciary Committee at that time reported that the bill was a comprehensive measure by which claims against the United States may be heard and determined entirely in the Court of Claims. Now, a little bit latter on somebody else made a proposal which gave the same jurisdiction to the United States District Courts and the Court of Claims had. So both the district court and the Court of Claims have what they call continuous and simultaneous jurisdiction over these kinds of claims. The Tucker Act ended up eventually after it was
passed provided for the bringing of suits against the government of the United States for money damages to be completely heard and determined by the Court of Claims and then later on this US District Court jurisdiction was made synonymous with that jurisdiction. Now, anybody filing a complaint for money damages for any injury caused by the United States could, in fact, sue the United States but it was considered, it was only for what was listed in the Tucker Act. The court goes on to say in this particular case that I’m reading, for decades this court consistently interpreted the Tucker Act as having provided the consent of the United States to be sued for classes of claims described in the act. And, believe it or not, the majority of the claims described in that act were the taking of private property without just compensation in violation of the 5th Amendment. That was what Abraham Lincoln set up. It went beyond that and the court goes on to say, in the last two recent decisions this court explicitly stated that the Tucker Act affects a waiver of sovereign immunity—by the way, people who claim they’re sovereign or a bunch of bullshit, the governments are sovereign. Sovereignty rests with the controlling authority. The controlling authority is the king in England and the king here in the United States is called the US government. Anyway, it was a waiver of their sovereign immunity for the government so that they could be sued. These decisions confirmed the unanimous thrust of the history of the act and determined that the government could be sued for any wrongs that they did to the individual and private people. So there is a waiver of sovereign immunity. It’s called the Tucker Act and somewhere here it states where it’s codified, and I don’t like using the Code reference but anyway it’s codified at 28 United States Code, Section 1491. That’s the Tucker Act, a waiver of immunity from being sued by the United States. Now, listen to me and listen close, the US District Court has jurisdiction to hear similar type claims but the Court of Claims of the United States’ jurisdiction is restricted to claims against the United States government. You cannot take a claim against a state government into the United States Court of Claims. It doesn’t have the jurisdiction to hear them and it was never established for them to have that jurisdiction but the United States District Court jurisdiction is established under the 14th Amendment to extend the Bill of Rights of the United States including the 4th and 5th Amendments to the states. So the United States District Court has an even superior jurisdiction. They can hear all the claims against the United States that you might make for money damages and they can hear any claims that you might make against the states for money damages because of injuries caused by the state governments and their political subdivisions like the city, the county, the town governments and such. Under the 14 Amendment which extended the Bill of Rights of the United States Constitution to the states. So, the US District Court can hear these complaints against the state. The Court of Claims cannot. The Court of Claims or the US District Court can both hear claims against the United States government for any injury that they have caused you. The whole basis of this to be put together in the first place by Abraham Lincoln was because during the Civil War there was a lot of taking of private property by military personnel in and during the Civil War. And to recover your private property that had been damaged or taken in any way during the Civil War this was opened up. Well, it’s still there. It hasn’t been done away with. It still can hear any kind of a claim against government for the taking of your private property. This is really the only problem we have in America. They are controlling us through our property. This is a waiver of immunity of the United States government and the state governments through the 14th Amendment to be able to sue them for the taking of your private property. The breach of
trust that I have been talking about for the last couple of weeks and the establishment of a constructive trust and enforcement of it to recover private property all falls under this category of a waiver of their immunity. They have no way to stand on what you might call their laurels and claim they have any immunity, providing, of course, that you state this in the complaint that the immunity has been waived by these statutes. They are suable. I hope Dave is touch with Rod Class and extends this information to him along with what he found in Title 15, Section 1122, because this is even more powerful. It is a general waiver of immunity rather than a specific one like Title 15, Section 1122 sets forth. Dave, do that for me please. Let him know about this. It’s called the Tucker Act, Title 28, United States Code, Section 1491. The government has allowed themselves to be suable. Now, prior to 1855 there was no general statute that gave consent of the United States to be sued on any kind of claims, at all, but interestingly enough in the discussions that went on in Congress at that time they commented that all other nations of the world have already allowed the people to sue their government for a redress of grievances against the government except this country. We’re a little bit behind in getting things done, aren’t we? Even that far back we were behind in getting things done. This is important to the discussions that we’ve been having lately about suing them for breach of their trustee and fiduciary duties. They have a duty to be honest—I chuckle every time I say that—and to be loyal to the instrument that created the trust that the government is. All governments are in a trust position. They are there for the protection of the people that are under them as a government. Now, I’ll grant you they’re not under us. I’m able to tell you that they’re not under us. They are superior to us because they are our parents, our protectors, our guardians. They’re over us. Their duty is to stay over us and protect us as beneficiaries of the public trust. And that’s what some of these court cases like Jersey City v. Hague have stated that is the duty of government officials to protect us as beneficiaries and when they fail that duty they are personally liable for their wrongful acts. There are suable and through the 14th Amendment the states are suable in the US District Court so I wouldn’t play with the state courts if I were you and very specifically in the Court of Claims they are liable as federal government officials for the wrongs that they do. Their dishonesty and their disloyalty to the trust instrument is what basically creates the breach of trust and breach of fiduciary duty. It doesn’t matter if they breach that duty to themselves, their own government, by doing wrongs against the government or if they breach that duty in doing wrongs against the citizenry which are the beneficiaries of the trust—it still applies. Interestingly enough, several weeks ago I helped somebody to create a little bit of a document relating to a constructive trust and they submitted it to their lawyer and he said, ‘no, no, no, no, no, this isn’t going to work. We can’t do it this way.’ It shows you they’re scared to death of this trust stuff. But this person happened to have a friend whose husband is a government lawyer and she sent a copy over to her friend who showed it to her husband and his comments were, ‘this guy really knows what he’s doing.’ Now, he wasn’t on the short end of the stick of what we had put together. He was able to be a little bit honest about it. The one that was on the short end of the stick he didn’t want anything to do with it because these lawyers are scared to death of anything to do with this trust stuff because if you ever prove any kind of a breach of trust by government you’ll be able to prove that every damned lawyer is a corrupt no good son-ofa-bitch that is breaching the trust constantly. They are dishonest and they are disloyal to the instrument that created the trust which is the Constitution. Lawyers are really your problem. Now, when it comes to health doctors are your problem. When it comes to
spirituality religion and preachers are your problem. But when it comes to the law lawyers are your problem if you don’t take the time to put a little effort and study into this area of trust. Now, I’m getting some of this stuff together and starting to make photocopies so I can send it out to people. I’m starting to accrue a little bit of money toward paying some girls to type this stuff up into the computers so that we can put it out for free downloads on the computer. It has to be a free download. Most of the stuff coming out of these books are copyrighted books. We can’t sell it. No matter how much I’d like to do that to make a dollar or two to keep this going I can’t do that. We have to make it a free download and I don’t care. I’ll make it a free download. I want people to learn and understand it. I’d like to get an extra dollar or two in here to help support more research but that’s all right, it’ll come from somewhere. God provides in some silly way or another. Whatever we need at the time that God is willing to give us this expansion of knowledge, it’ll come. We don’t have to do this to make money. We can provide it in a free way and this is what I’m trying to do. Right now I need a few donations to help me to pay these girls to do all the typing. When I get enough together and I got a couple of girls that have volunteered to do some help but they got to support their own families. They got to pay their bills. They need a couple of dollars. They don’t need to be paid any exorbitant amount like lawyers charge or anything like that. We got to give them something. And as the money’s coming in I’m getting things together and I’m making some photocopies right now to make it available to people, putting it together so it sort of makes sense. It’s going to make a lot more sense if we can put it all together and make it a free download. I’m putting enough together in photocopies that we can send it out to some people. I’m slow at getting this done because, remember, I’m the only one doing it. I really don’t think I can do it any faster by teaching somebody what to look for because by the time I teach them I could have done it myself. It’s slowly coming together. I think there is a time for all of this. I think that this is what will be the demise of many of the governments around the entire world that are corrupt, not just in this country because we’re not the only ones suffering with this corruption. All governments are operating under a paper phony money system. They’re all operating under the commercial codes related to negotiable instruments and the flow of negotiable instruments in commerce. Negotiable instruments are not real, they represent something real but they’re not real. And the use of them in the way they’re doing it does, in fact, constitute a taking of our private property for their public use without just compensation. The monetization of all the properties that we register with government is a taking of our private property without just compensation. It’s actually worse today than what the military had to do during the Civil War to take over people’s property and use it for a fort to defend the government’s stand and such that they did back then. Things are a hell of a lot worse today. The taking is just overwhelming that’s going on of our private property. We are being extorted in so many different ways and we don’t realize it, we don’t understand it, we think everything is fine. The damned preachers in all types of religion are telling you, you got to have a birth certificate or they won’t bar mitzvah you or they won’t baptize you or whatever their silly little religious things are that you want done to your children that you ought to stay the hell away from. But you participate. You think these things are great. And you got to have a birth certificate. Religion pushed you into that. Well, that’s where the monetization of your body comes from, the registration of the birth certificate. Religions are just as damned corrupt as the rest of these governments and lawyers are. Stay away from religion as best you can and don’t go off into these non-denominational and think
you’re any better off. They’re just as corrupt. They’re teaching the same bull crap. You’re not any better off. But anyway, knowledge would make you better off. Go study and read and learn on your own. You will find out slowly if you apply yourself but if you keep your religious views while you’re reading it you still won’t learn anything. You’ll still be suffering with distortions. So be careful. Please be careful. Anyway, as we put this together we’re going to have some forms available. We’ll be able to send the forms out to you. We’ll be able to send some court cases out to you that show you how these things are viewed by the courts. We’ll be able to send some statutory information out to you like the Tucker Act to show you where and how the jurisdiction is established to waive their immunity. We can put all this stuff together for you. You have to put it together with the story of what happened to you because your story is unique. If you can’t write the story down then don’t even get involved. You’re going to have to explain the story. I didn’t experience the story, you did. I can’t write it for you. No lawyer is going to do this for you. He couldn’t write the story anyway. There are ways to accomplish these things. There are ways to bring these suits and this will help to bring the corruption to a stop. We need to do these kinds of things. It’s important. Remember that the Bible tells us that God doesn’t do anything. He sits there watching and I’ll bet you He is laughing so hard He’s choking and gagging because He’s laughing so hard at some of the stupid stuff that His people that He created are involved in doing down here. But it does tell us that God works through His people. Things only happen because of what God’s people do. The only way we’re going to expose the evil and put a stop to this and destroy it is by being God’s servant and doing what is intended to be done. It’s our duty to expose this. The rest of the people are so damned stupid. At first a lot of them are not going to accept it or believe it. But slowly things will wake some of those people up. Some people will never wake up. It’s not intended that they will. They are not God’s people. The Bible is full of stories about God’s children and God’s people and God’s creation and God’s enemies. That is two different groups of people that exist here on this planet. Everybody is not God’s people. The enemies, the evil, are the ones in power today. And the only way to stop them and put them out of commission is for God’s people that He works through to take action and do something. We’re putting pieces together. It certainly looked for years like there wasn’t any hope. This has been very discouraging over the 31 years that I’ve been involved in this but I knew our Creator wouldn’t let us down. Someday the knowledge would be given to us and it’s starting to break open and numerous people are getting pieces of it, not just me. I’m not the only one. I’m not a favorite in God’s eyes or anything like that, I’m not anything special but there are a group of people that are God’s people that He is giving the information to, to spread to the rest of God’s people and to help them all to move and do something about this. Hopefully we can keep this in as little as violent situation as possible but I don’t think so because I think God’s enemies are going to become violent as they’re beginning to fall and lose their power. So prepare for rough times. Prepare for your own medications that you may need. Prepare for food supply. I have taught for years that everybody should buy a book that tells you what wild plants {and bugs} are edible that grow in the area where you live throughout the seasons because even in winter in cold weather there are things that grow that are edible {not bugs} in the cold climate. There are good things that grow and you need to learn how to dry them and then reconstitute them by putting them in water. {Spout seeds} You have to know how to purify and clean the water and tonight’s discussion about the coffee filters was a big help in helping to purify the
water and the Clorox, just a tablespoon in a gallon of water. This is not going to hurt you. {Clorox is also useful to get rid of radiation, as well as clay, sodium bicarbonate, chlorella (top item), spirulina, barley grass, wheatgrass, cilantro, seaweed miso, modifilan, kombu, green tea, ALA, etc.} It’s not enough to be harmful to you but it will kill the contamination that might be in the water. So you need to learn and realize those kinds of things. We’re going to have some rough times in the near future. Things are not going to stay as we have known them to be. {The radiation in Japan has given some people 100 miles south of the nukes radiation poisoning and people in Hawaii who are sensitive to thyroid problems are noticing the radiation and some radiation has been noted in the Los Angeles area as of March 18, 2011.} {Look on the positive side, we’ll save on flashlights since we’ll be glowing in the dark.} Things are changing, you need to prepare but along the way until it all happens we need to go after some of these government officials and expose through the courts—that’s about all the good the court’s are there for, to expose this—and surprisingly enough the news media is reporting things that I never thought that they would ever talk about. They’re actually degrading {berating?} government. They’re actually picking on government’s wrongdoing today. It will get out through the news media, today, if we bring some of these suits against some high-ranking government officials. Now, I’m talking about Congress and judges and people like that, not necessarily going after the President. He’s not even worth going after. He is a puppet, a poor fool. It doesn’t matter what his name is, every president that we’ve had in there at least since the Civil War, since Lincoln was killed, every president since then has been nothing but a puppet for the control factions that are behind the scenes controlling everything. It’s no sense going after the president. He’s not really the big wheel. Don’t worry about him. No matter what his name is don’t worry about him. Go after the ones that are doing the acts like judges, police officers, lawyers and politicians, Congressmen and state legislators that have created laws that are vague and incompetent to show the purpose and intent of the law and allowing for the misuse of the law. Those kinds of things can be attacked and approached very easily for breach of fiduciary and trust duty. So, look at these forms as we get them together. Write to Gemini. I’ve given the address many times. Write to Gemini and ask and we’ll mail you a copy. I just ask you to send me a few dollars to cover the cost of mailing and the printing. We’re not doing this to try to make a profit. I don’t want fifty or a hundred dollars or anything like that for a package. Send me five or ten dollars because some of these packages are not small. It will cost me a bit for the copying and the mailing. Mailing might be as much as five bucks on it. That’s all we’re asking. Keep me going, keep me from having to run out of money because I don’t have enough to pay all the mailing costs. That’s all I ask you for. I’m willing to get this information out as far as possible to as many people as possible for your good. I think that other countries will pick up on this very quickly because I think other countries have much more intelligent people than we do. They don’t have the same degraded education system in other countries that we have. They have less education which leaves people with more brain to use. The education in this country clutters people’s brains with so much crap it’s a wonder you can think at all after you’ve got an education. So it will quickly be picked up in other countries and they will realize that their governments are trustees too and that they can go after them in what ever manner their court procedures allow. They’ll pick up on it. We need to get this started and quickly, I think, but then again our Creator may delay this for one reason or another because it’s not really ready for our Creator’s time schedule. I don’t know. But it’s coming through so fast,
right now, and opening up so broadly that I think it’s pretty close to our Creator’s time for knowledge to be expanded throughout the world. So stay tuned. We’ll be back next Thursday night for the law study class. We’ll be back next Monday night for the health and water call. It’s the same phone number for both calls and both calls are at eight o’clock Eastern Time so adjust that to whatever your time schedule is. For now I’m going to say good night and I thank all of you for tuning in.
