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EDITORIAL STAFF 
Publisher 
December1995 Vol.23,No.12
Page  12 
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CONTENTS
1 AlCNews/H,G,Frautschy
3 Aeromail 
4  Editorial/E.E. "Buck" Hilbert 
5 FromtheArchives/ 
DennisParks 
9 MysteryPlane/H.G,Frautschy
10 WhatOurMembers
AreRestoring/
NormPetersen
12 BringingYourProjectHome/
DonHolloran
13 B.Thomas'Staggerwing/
H.G. Frautschy
17 TomLeaver's
MoraneSaulnier/TomLeaver
21 1996TypeClub Listing
25 PassittoBuck/
E.E." Buck" Hilbert
26 WelcomeNewMembers
26 Calendar
28 VintageTrader
30 Antique/ClassicMerchandise
Tom  Poberezny 
Vice-President 
Marketing & Communications 
Dick Matt 
Ediior-in-Chief 
Jackeox 
Editor 
Henry G.  Frautschy 
Managing Editor 
Golda Cox 
Art Director 
Mike Drucks 
Assistant Art Director 
Sara A. Otto 
Computer Graphic Specialists 
Olivia L.  Phillip  Jennifer Larsen 
Advertising 
Mary  Jones 
Associate Editor 
Norm Petersen 
Feature Writers 
George Hardie, Jr.  Dennis Parks 
Staff Photographers 
Jim Koepnick  Mike Steineke 
Carl Schuppel  Donna Bushman 
Editorial Assistant 
Isabelle Wiske 
EAA ANTIQUE/ CLASSIC  DIVISION, INC. 
OFFICERS 
President 
Espie ·Butch· Joyce 
P.O.  Box 35584 
Greensboro, NC 27425 
910/393.0344 
Secretary 
Steve Nesse 
2009 Highland Ave. 
Albert Lea, MN 56007 
507/373-1674 
Vice-President 
George Doubner 
2448 Lough  Lone 
Hartford, WI  53027 
414/673-5885 
Treasurer
E.E.  'Buck'  Hilbert 
P.O.  Box 424 
Union,IL60180 
815/923-4591 
DIRECTORS 
John Berendt 
7645 Echo Point Rd. 
Cannon Falls, MN 55009 
507/263-2414 
Gene Chase 
2159 Carlton Rd. 
Oshkosh, WI  54904 
414/231-5002 
Phil  Coulson 
28415 Springbrook Dr. 
Lawton, MI  49065 
616/624-6490 
Charles Harris 
7215 East 46th St. 
Tulsa, OK  74145 
918/622-8400 
Dale A. Gustafson 
7724 Shady Hill  Dr. 
Indianapolis, IN 46278 
317/293-4430 
Robert Lickteig 
1708 Bay Oaks Dr. 
Albert Lea, MN 56007 
507/373-2922 
Geoff Robison 
1521  E.  MacGregor Dr. 
New Haven, IN  46774 
Robert C. "Bob" Brauer 
9345 S.  Hoyne 
Chicago, IL  60620 
312/779-2105 
John S. Copeland 
28-3 Williamsbur8 Ct. 
Shrewsbury, MA  1545 
508/842-7867 
Stan Gomoll 
1042 90th  Lane,  NE 
Minneapolis, MN 55434 
612/784-1172 
Jeannie Hill 
P.O.  Box 328 
Harvord, IL  60033 
815/943-7205 
Robert D. "Bob'  Lumley 
1265 South  124th St. 
Brookfield, WI  53005 
414/782-2633 
Gene Morris 
115C Steve Court, R.R.  2 
Roanoke, 1)(76262 
817/491-9110 
George York 
181  Sloboda Av. 
Mansfield, OH 44906 
FRONT COVER  .  . The  Beechcraft D-I7R of Brad Thomas, as restored by Doc's 
Air Service of Sandwich, IL  was the EAA OSHKOSH  '94 Bronze Age Antique 
Runner-up.  EAA photo by Jim Koepnick. shot with a  Canon EOS-l  equipped 
with an 80-200mm lens.  1/250 sec.  at flO Kodak Ektachrome Lumiere  100 film. 
Cessna 210 photo plane flown by Bruce Moore. 
BACK COVER  ...  "Running for Home" is  the title of this  oil painting by Michael 
Boze. 2155 E.  Pierceton Rd  #1.Warsaw. IN  46580.  Commissioned by Anson 
Mount. the painting is  not for sale. but Michael is  interested in  painting 
commissions and limited edition prints.  "Running for Home" was awarded an 
Honorable Mention ribbon during the  1995 Sport Aviation Art Competition. 
Copyright  © 1995  by the EAA Antique/Classic  Division  Inc. All  rights reserved. 
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Ale
NEWS 
compiled  by  H.G.  Frautschy 
AjC BOARD NOTES
At the 1995 Fall AntiquelCiassic Board
of Directors meeting, a number of events
took place that are of note:
First, the Board of directors, in accor-
dance with the Division Bylaws, appointed
Director George Daubner to serve out the
remainder of the vice-presidential term of
the late Art Morgan, who passed away this
past July. George expressed his thanks to
the board for their vote of confidence, and
expressed his desire to serve the Division
to the best of his ability. George is the
chairman of the AIC Parking Committee,
and also volunteers much of his free time
to EAA's Pioneer Airport.
To fiIl the director's position vacated by
George, the Board appointed AIC Advisor
Geoff Robison to complete that term. Ge-
off also works during the convention as
one of the organizers of the AIC parking
committee, and is the Chairman of security
for the AIC parking area during the
evening hours.
1996 will mark the 25th anniversary of
the Division, and plans are being made to
celebrate this significant milestone
throughout the year in the Pages of Vin-
tage Airplane, and especially during spe-
cial events during EAA OSHKOSH '96.
The Board was briefed on the many activi-
ties planned by Dobbie Lickteig, who is
chairing the effort to put the celebration
together. Look for more news starting
next month in the pages of Vintage Air-
plane.
During the general Membership
meeting called to order during the Board
of Directors meeting, a presentation was
made by attorney and EAA Legal Coun-
cil Chairman Jack Harrington regarding
the revision of the tax status of the Divi-
sion. By becoming a non-profit organi-
zation under IRS code 501c3, the Divi-
sion will realize some savings during the
coming years, particularly when it comes
to the cost of postage. The motion to
proceed with the proposal was voted on
and approved. Mr. Harrington stated
that the application would be filed with
the IRS during the week of November
13, and that the Division could expect fi-
nal approval from the IRS around Feb-
ruary of 1996. The Board expressed
their appreciation for Mr. Harrington's
work, a major portion of which was do-
nated to the Division.
Other news concerning the Fall board
meeting will be detailed in president Butch
Joyce ' s column, Straight & Level, next
month.
Later that evening, the board and its in-
vited guests attended the EAA Hall of
Fame dinner, where 3 individuals who had
contributed to the the advancement of An-
tiquelClassic aviation were inducted into
the AIC Hall of Fame. Their contributions
are detailed on the next page.
EAA ON THE INTERNET
An ever increasing number of EAAer's
have been asking about an official EAA
presence on the Internet. We' re pleased
to announce that effective immediately,
the EAA Ultimate Flights Web Page
(http://www .eaa. org/ultimateflights) is up
and running, ready for net surfers to ac-
cess. Information on the segments and
special features of current, future and past
episodes of EAA's Ultimate Flights series
on ESPN2 is presented.
Future EAA web sites will include
pages on the EAA Aviation Foundation' s
Young Eagles Program and EAA
OSHKOSH ' 96.
AIRCRAFT FOR SALE
The EAA Aviation Foundation has a
number of duplicate or otherwise excess
aircraft in its collection available for sale.
Two aircraft will be sold to the person(s)
submitting the best offer above a minimum
bid by 5 P.M. (CST) on Monday, Decem-
ber 18.
The aircraft (and their minimum bid
value) include a Piper J-4 Cub Coupe
($13,000); and an Ercoupe ($9,500).
The term "bid value" is used to provide
for a cash purchase, an aircraft exchange
(or trade) or a combination of both that
meets or exceeds the minimum bid value.
Bids that do not reach or exceed the stated
amount will not be considered. Bidders
who would like EAA to consider a particu-
lar trade should contact Chuck Parnall in
the EAA Flight Department at 414/426-
4886 (FAX: 414/426-4881) to determine a
level of interest. Chuck can also provide
EAA ADULT AIR ACADEMY
information packages and specific bidding
instructions.
In addition, three jet aircraft are also
available for sale (no time deadline) . The
aircraft (and their asking price) are an F-86
Sabre ($225,000); a CF-104D Starfighter
($165,000); and a Hawker Hunter
($75,000).
All aircraft will be sold on an " as-is ,
where-is" basis. Each airplane is available
for inspection by contacting Daryl Lenz,
EAA Director of Aircraft Maintenance
and Restoration, at 414/426-4843.
Robert Van Ausdell
Bob Van Ausdell (EAA 13104, AIC
4151) , Santa Paula, CA and one of the
trustees of the Staggerwing Museum, was
tragically killed in a landing accident at
Youngstown, OH while attempting to land
the newly restored Travel Air Mystery
Ship just prior to its scheduled appearance
at the Staggerwing Convention.
One of the Museum Foundation's most
active founding members, Bob and his
beautiful yellow and black Beechcraft D-
17S have been well known up and down
the west coast and all over the U.S . .
Our condol ences to his family and his
many friends .
Howard Funk
Howard Funk, Coffeyville, KS passed
away at the age of 85 on October 18, 1995.
Howard and his brother Joe created and
produced the Funk airplane. A short his-
tory of their efforts was published in the
October issue of Vintage Airplane. After
ending lightplane production, Howard and
his brother went into the production of
transmissions that improved the usefulness
of many farmer's tractors by providing a
durable power take-off that could be used
to drive other implements. The company
they started in now a division of John
Deere, Inc.
Howard was acknowledged as an out-
standing engineer , and was the driving
force behind the design of the products
built and sold by the company.
Our condolences to Joe Funk, the Funk
family and the many friends and acquain-
tances of Howard Funk.
The EAA Adult Air Academy will present its annual session from February 19-
23, 1996 at the EAA Aviation Center in Oshkosh. Basic aircraft maintenance, build-
ing and restoration skills will be the subjects of classroom and workshop activities
plus participants will have the opportunity to meet Headquarters staff and learn
more about the wide range of EAA activities.
The EAA IZENAIR Aircraft Building Academy is scheduled for February 24-
March 3, 1996. This workshop is the first of its kind presented by the EAA Air
Academy, with a goal of constructing an all metal ZENAIR Zodiac CH 601. The
$800 registration fee for each of these programs provide for accommodations, meals,
local transportation, necessary supplies and materials.
For further information and registration materials, contact the EAA Education
Office by calling 414/426-4888 or writing P.O. Box 3065, Oshkosh, WI 54903-3065.
Participation is limited to 25 people per session.
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 1
1995 
Antique/Classic Hall of Fame Inductees 
Our congratulations to the three inductees installed in the
fAA Antique/Classic Division's Hall of Fame, November 10, 1995. They are:
Joe Juptner (left) was unable to 
attend the festivities in Oshkosh, 
but his friend Buck Hilbert, shown 
here with Joe in California during 
1993, accepted the award on his 
behalf. 
Joseph P. Juptner
Joseph has been an airplane afi-
cionado since he was a small child.
He finally got his chance to see an
airplane, a J-l Standard, when he
was twelve years old. As a young-
ster, he washed and cleaned as
many old biplanes as he could to
earn rides, and hung around the pi-
lots li stening to their imaginative
stories about their adventures.
As he grew up he trained to be
a private pilot, mechanic, amateur
airplane designer and airplane
builder. During WW II he served
as a crew chief in a fighter squadron
and upon leaving the service, he
owned and ran a hobby shop for
four years. Later, he was a partner
in a flying school and then had a ca-
reer with Douglas Aircraft as a
wind tunnel model builder.
During his entire life, Joe has
gathered a vast collection of historical data, books, magazines, and
photos on civilian aircraft. As he delved into aviation history, it be-
came obvious that a complete factual record of the history of civilian
aircraft in the United States was sorely needed.
Over a number of years he wrote several volumes of what would
be published as "U.S. Civil Aircraft," a history of each of the aircraft
type certificated in the U.S. from 1927 into 1957. Joe Juptner's
painstaking effort over the years to create his nine volume set put
into the hands of historians and enthusiasts a nine volume aeronauti-
cal encyclopedia that has proven to be an essential part of many avia-
tion libraries.
Aviation ent husiasts everywhere owe a continuing debt to Joe
Juptner for his lifelong, diligent work on what is considered the most
ambitious venture in aeronautical book publishing.
Cole Palen
From his early days as a
youth, Cole Palen reveled in
the stories of the Great War
and the iron men who flew the
fabric covered fighters of that
time. In 1952, a few years after
graduating with an A&E cer-
tificate from the Roosevelt Me-
chanics School on Roosevelt
Field, he learned that the re-
maining six WW I era airplanes
of a collection based at the old
airfield were to be auctioned
Rita Palen accepts the AlC Hall of 
Fame award on  behalf of her late 
hsuband, Cole Palen as EAA 
Founder and Chairman Paul 
Poberezny looks on. 
2 DECEMBER  1995 
off by sealed bid. Putting his entire life savings into the bid, he won
out over the otber bidders, and after nine round trips to Long Is-
land by car and trailer to retrieve his "new" treasures, he started a
collection that would grow to over 70 aircraft by the time of his
death in 1993.
In 1958, he was able to buy a defunct farm near Rhinebeck, NY.
Not many would believe it could be the site of an airstrip, but with
the help of a small but extremely dedicated group of volunteers, the
Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome became a reality. By 1960, they were
flying one airshow on the first Sunday of each month. As its popu-
larity grew, every weekend would be filled with the sounds of eager
crowds and the bark of a rotary engine. The Old Rhinebeck Aero-
drome Foundation continues the traditions set by Cole as the show
goes on, teaching a new generation about the early days of aviation.
Cole Palen became one of the pioneers of the vintage airplane
hobby and a leader of those involved in the restoration and flying of
WW I airplanes. By popularizing the coll ection and restoration of
early aircraft, Cole helped save early aircraft and aviation artifacts
that would otherwise have been lost forever.
Kelly Viets
Kelly's love of vintage air-
planes has its roots in his child-
hood during the 1920s and '30s,
when he spent time at the Kansas
City Airport. there he saw many
of the great airplanes of the day -
the first TWA DC-2, peeking
into the hangar to see the Travel
Air Mystery Ship (which earned
him a removal from the hangar
by the seat of his pants!) and
Benny Howard's Ike. Kelly was
a voracious model airplane
builder, a hobby he credits with
helping him on his way to be-
coming a consulting engineer. During WW II, Kelly was busy design-
ing airports and base facilities for the U.S. Government. In 1954 he
began his own firm, Viets Consulting Engineers.Kelly received his pi-
lot's license in 1946 on the GI bill. In 1966, with gentle guidance from
Edna, hi s wife, he purchased bis first airplane, an Ercoupe he still
owns. (Edna told him he could buy any airplane he wanted, as long as
it was one of the cute airplanes he flew at night during his flight train-
ing!) He and Edna founded the International Ercoupe Association in
the early 1970' s. He has also restored a 1940 Bellanca 14-12 and a
1947 Stinson Station Wagon.
Kelly has provided long-term service to both EAA and to the An-
tique/Classic Division. He served as a member of tbe EAA Aviation
Foundation Board from 1974-1983, was a Director of the AlC Board
starting in 1972 and became Secretary of the Division in 1980. He
was also elected to two terms as Vice -President. His dedication and
Kelly Viets accepts the congratula-
tions of AlC Division President Butch 
Joyce during the ceremonies held at 
the EAA Aviation Center. 
hard work was instrumental in making Antique/Classic the popular
'* Division that it is today.
VINTAGE 
Aero Mail 
Howdie H.G.!
Even before "Pete," Gordon Israel at-
tempted to break into air racing with a
clipped wing Buhl Bull Pup motivated by a
95 hp Menasco. That was one of the pro-
jects he never talked about, and I haven' t
a clue why this was so. Maybe it crashed.
His Stinson Reliant proposals were almost
100% Howard in concept and you would
swear, after looking at the preliminary lay-
outs, that they were DGA spinoffs. The
interplay between Stinson and Howard
during G.1. 's tenure is pretty revealing.
They hired him to put some pep into the
Reliant, which was widely thought of as an
old man's airplane.
An interesting sideli ght of G.!. is the
fact he did a lot of his own test flying at
Stinson, Howard and Grumman with noth-
ing more than a student permit in his
pocket. I'm not sure he ever held a valid
private pilot's license. Certainly he didn' t
before the War.
In 1960 or thereabout, while cruising
along the banks of Lake Como, a passing
floatplane led me to the Como Aero
Cl ub' s fleet, which included a Ca.100. I
thought it might have been the subj ect of
your article, but it was I-COMA. Hey, I
spent half the afternoon in a baking garage
trying to find those pictures!
The enclosed reminded me that there
was an effort to market the Ca.lOO in this
country. A single example, NC57K, was
certificated in the Group 2 category under
the auspices of the Curtiss Company, no
less. This mayor may not have had some-
thing to do with their (Curtiss- Wright)
later involvement with the DH Moth pro-
gram at St. Louis. Nothing came of it , be-
cause the the Ca.lOO's handling character-
istics were reputed to be less than
satisfactory. NC57K met its e nd on a
cross-country over the Pennsylvania coun-
tryside , having been sold to a private
owner, when the 85 hp Gypsy quit. The
pilot tri ed to spiral into a field , fell into a
spin and "bought the farm. "
Re the July Mystery Plane. Years ago,
in the late ' 50s or early ' 60s, a gent by the
name of Howard Heindell had a little print
shop we used to patronize from time to
time, for letterheads and such. On the cus-
tomer side of the counter he kept a stack
of ancient and tattered scrap books, one of
which detailed the the history of the Arg-
onaut Pirate, which he had designed.
Howard was an Early Bird who had
learned to fly at one of the Curtiss schools,
c. 1912, possibly a pupil of Glenn Curtiss
himself. Certainly he was a Curtiss em-
ployee early on and was pretty much a
self-ta ught engineer.
The Argonaut illustrated is the Model
H-20, built in 1933-34, and powered by an
experimental 120 hp Curtiss Crusader in-
verted six. The airplane showed a lot of
promise and production plans called for an
initi al batch of ten H-24s, which differed
mainly in having the 125 hp Menasco Pi-
rate. At this point Heindell's backers be-
gan negotiating with Al Menasco for ten
more engines at an affordabl e price. Ap-
The bottom two shots of the July Mystery
Plane is an earlier model of the Argonaut
Pirate, the H-20. The top shot is the final
version of the amphibian, the H-24.
The Caproni Ca.1oo was marketed with
little success here in the USA by
Curtiss. It was powered by a American
built 85 hp Gypsy.
parently they had been promised engines
for $600 which was about half the going
rate, but MenasCO"Teneged. ·This undoubt-
edly contributed to the company's failure
to get their Tonawanda, NY factory into
production.
The Argonaut company passed into the
hands of Donald G. White, whose White
Aircraft Corp. in LeRoy, NY also owned
the Ben Jones and New Standard corpo-
rate assets. White's money, by the way,
came from lello pudding. He enlisted en-
gineer George Gay to do a remake of the
Pirate with improved streamlining, the 160
hp Menasco Buccaneer and later the 175
hp Ranger. They didn' t get beyond the
prototype stage either.
Hey, H.G., I could regale you with
anecdotes about Israel and his "Redhead,"
the Laird on p.age 8, 01' NC55555 and a
few more Capronis, but I gotta get back to
the book. That way I ' ll at least make
boxboy wages. It's a terrible curse to have
a head full of useless trivia, compounded
by compulsive letter-writing.
Cheers!
John Underwood
Glendale, CA
John 's letter points out that there was a
bigger reason for the difference between the
three photos used in the answer for the July
Mystery Plane, published in October. The
first two shots show the airplane with no
registration, and a few differences in the Pi-
rate's configuration. The vertical tail is a
different shape, and it is painted a darker
color. Based on John' s recollection, it does
seem likely that the first two shots are of the
H-20, while the last is of the H-24. - H.G .
Frautschy ...
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 3
WHY
The Antique/Classic
QUESTIONNAIRE
by E.E. "Buck" Hilbert
As you may recall , old ""Bucky" is
still working on this aviation rules
thing with Charlie Schuck. Well , I've
involved some of the EAA staff - H.G.
Frautschy, your editor, Ben Owen of
Information Services, Bob Mackey of
the Chapter Office and Earl Lawrence
from EAA Government Affairs. With
Tom Poberezny and Executive V.P.
Bob Warner giving the O.K., we are
putting together the data we need to
approach the FAA for some easing of
the maintenance and certification rules
for the aircraft over thirty years old.
That is the basic reason for the ques-
tionnaire.
What are we going to do with the
information? First, we really need to
get a handle on the actual ways people
are maintaining their airplanes. Build-
ing your own parts for use on your air-
plane is perfectly legal per FAR 21.303,
and if a lot of us need to do that to
keep our airplanes flying safely, then
we need the statistics to prove our
point to the FAA.
We also need to know what types of
airplanes are being maintained in cer-
tain ways - in other words, are most of
the Antique/Classic airplanes owner
maintained, with AI assisted annuals?
Or is that done mostly on lighter air-
planes, or across the board? And what
part do Type Clubs play in all of this?
If we are able to show the FAA that
much of the technical information is
with the type clubs, we can show how
we, as a group, can safely maintain our
airplanes.
The format is set up so that our data
processing department can easi ly input
your answers, without getting too
"wordy." I wasn't too pleased with the
format at first , until I called Earl
Lawrence and he patiently explained
how the computer understands multi-
ple choice questions far better than a
"fill in the blank." It seems that using
this format, the computer will classify
and sort all the information. That way
we can pull out any statistic we need
and help the FAA by supplying fact -
based information that isn't generated
from hearsay.
EAA's willingness to help us on this
survey highlights why it's such a good
idea to belong to the Antique/Classic
Division. EAA has the credibility and
access to the FAA that we need to help
gain visibility for our problems, and
with EAA's upgrading of their com-
puter and data processing capabilities,
they can help consolidate the informa-
tion into useful conclusions. That's
why it's important that the Division is
a part of EAA - they have worked
closely with the FAA for over 40 years,
and we can benefit from this long term
cooperative relationship.
These questions should help us get a
better handle on what we all are doing
to keep our airplanes in the air. So get
a good grip on your writing stick, grit
your teeth and check off the boxes to
the best of your ability. We need the
data to build our case and maybe we'll
get some consideration for our older
airplanes. Meanwhile, I think I'd bet-
ter see about hitching a ride on the
new information Superhighway and
learn something about computers.
Over to you,
To make it clear to all of our new members, I think it's appro-
priate to state that fAA and the Antique/Classic Division does not
sell "mailing lists" or "sell your name" to anybody who asks for it.
This particular survey will be used to help us with our work
directed at lessening the maintenance burden on our older
airplanes. We do not plan to release the names and addresses
related to each survey to any outside parties.
Information you send us when you join or renew your member-
ship is used in conjunction with materials sent on fAA's behalf
about our various insurance programs, fAA Aviation Foundation
fundraising and other fAA programs. - H.C. Frautschy
CHICAGO U.S.A 
SCALI:  I  I t.l C H  ·  775  '1'1. 
SEE- PLATf: 3 FO R S Y M ~ O L S  
from  the 
Archives
• • • 
by  Dennis Parks 
The following photos, donated by jane Lentzner, were taken by
George Lentzner and joe Hadky when they were teenagers at
the Chicago Municipal airport. The photos appear to date in
the late 1930s. The DC-4E had been in Chicago in 1939. joe
reported that they "walked around and poked into anything they
wanted and no one questioned us." The photos reproduced re-
flect the variety of passenger planes being used, from the an-
cient Ford Trimotor to the four-engine wonder of its day, the
Douglas DC-4E.
CHICAGO MUNICIPAL  AIRPORT 
Chicago Municipal Airport was one of more than  a 
dozen  airports established in  Chicago by 1926.  Now 
known  as  Midway, it would grow to become the busiest 
airport in  the world.  Officially opened May 8, 1926, the 
airport was not completed until two years later. 
The airport originally consisted of a  300 acre  tract site, 
of which  only the east side was developed.  When com-
pleted in  1928, the field  had nearly two miles of "modern" 
cinder runways, the  longest 3,600 feet  in  length and 186 
feet  wide. 
On  the southeast portion of the  fi e ld , National Air 
Transport, Robertson Aircraft, Aviation Serve and Trans-
port Company, and  the 33rd Division  of the Illinois Na-
tional  Guard maintained  hangars and offices.  On the south 
side,  Universal  Air Lines and Northwest Airways shared a 
hangar.  Grey Goose, Embry-Riddle and Standard Oil 
shared another.  Thompson Aeronautical  Corporation and 
Interstate Air Lines were also located on the field. 
The appearance of large, heavier airliners such  as  the 
Boeing 247's, Douglas DC-2's and DC-3's, which  ap-
peared  in  the  middle 1930's, required long,  paved run-
ways. In  1934 the railway  line which marked the  northern 
end of the field  was  relocated, clearing the way  for the ex-
tension  of runways and construct ion of additional facili-
ties,  making possible  the development of the  fie ld  as  the 
world's busiest airport. 
DOUGLAS DC-2. NC-13789. Transcontinental & Western Air
Jack Frye of TWA is credited with being the inspiration behind the Douglas series of twin-engined transports. Fokker transports
fell into disrepute after the crash in March 1931 that killed Notra Dame coach Knute Rockne. Grave doubts about the wooden
wings forced frequent and expensive inspections of Fokker wings.
With over a dozen Fokkers in their fleet, the inspection requirements about put TWA out of business. Frye turned to Boeing for
copies of the 247. With Boeing's output controlled by United, Frye had to look elsewhere and submitted specifications to five
manufacturers. Douglas responded with the proposal for the DC-1 (Douglas Commercial One).
The improved production version of the DC-1, the DC-2 started a new era when it went into service in 1934. Soon TWA was run-
ning the ships coast to coast, cutting seven hours out of earlier schedules.
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 5
(Left and below)  LOCKHEED Model10-A Elec-
tra NC-14938. Braniff Airways. 
After seven years of producing wooden aircraft, 
the Electra was the first all-metal Lockheed to 
be produced at the Burbank facility.  The air-
craft was designed as an economical, high 
speed, small transport.  A cruising speed of 
190 miles per hour made the Electra the fastest 
of the mUlti-engined transports of the time. 
Northwest was  the first operator of the air-
planes in 1934, flying the Minneapolis - Seattle 
route in nine hours.  The popularity of the plane 
with Northwest prompted Braniff to use them 
on their Chicago to the Gulf Coast routes. 
(Right)  DOUGLAS DC-2. NC-14969. Eastern Air 
Lines. In 1933/34 Easter ordered 11  DC-2s.  By 
1941  Eastern was the fourth largest user of DC-
3s,  operating 39 of them. Note the spinners. 
(Right)  BOEING 247  Possibly NC-13311. Penn-
sylvania Airlines. 
Firstflown in 1933, the Boeing 247 began a new 
era in passenger air travel.  Not only was it of 
all-metal construction, it was 50 miles per hour 
faster than it predecessor, the Boeing 80 Tri-
Motor.  Billed as the "three miles a minute" 
transport, its success led to the development of 
the Douglas DC-2s and DC-3s.  Note Townend 
Ring and two speed variable pitch propeller of 
the earlier models. 
(Below)  DOUGLAS DC-3. NC-16063.  United Air Lines. 
Development of the DC-3 was undertaken by Douglas at the request of American Airlines.  Using Curtiss Condor biplanes, Ameri-
can had found itself at a great disadvantage compared to the DC-2 used on the coast to coast flights by TWA. American's longer 
southern route also required overnight sleepers. Thus, the first product was the 14 berth DST,  Douglas Sleeper Transport. 
American introduced the DST as a day plane on the New York - Chicago route in June of 1936. This set new standards with non-
stop flights in both directions, surpassing the DC-2s service which was non-stop in only the Eastbound direction. The day version 
of the DST, called the DC-3, was equipped with 21  seats, exceeding the DC-2s capacity by a third. 
Within ten months of its introduction, all major transcontinental operators  were using the DST on coast-to-coast sleeper service. 
The DC-3 would come to completely dominate US passenger service. Within five and one-half years after its first use, 260 DC-3s 
were in domestic service, accounting for 80 per cent of all airliners. The next largest number in use was the Boeing 247 which 
numbered 25. 
6  DECEMBER  1995 
(Right) TRAVEL AIR 6000-A. NC-8704. American(?)
This Travel Air 6000 was owned by Central Airlines
of Wichita, Kansas during 1929-30. Southern
Transcontinental Airways, later purchased by
American, was listed as the owner in 1931.
This aircraft was developed by Travel Air in an-
swer to requests from airlines for a higher perfor-
mance single-engine cabin monoplane. It enabled
carriers on shorter routes to offer faster and more
frequent service. Operators of the 6000 included
Central Air Lines, Overland Airways, Northwest,
Soutern Air Transport and Delta. The plane also
appealed to personal owners for its performance
and lUxury. Actor Wallace Berry and film producer
Victor Fleming were owners of 6000's.
(Right) STINSON Model A Tri-Motor. American Air-
lines. This rag and tube passenger plane was an
anomaly in the era of the all metal Boeing 247s and
Douglas DC-2s and DC-3s. This model Stinson,
certificated in 1934, had the tri-motor transport
market all to itself. The Model A was designed as
a fast, short haul transport for the feeder market
and at half the price of its all metal competition,
the Stinson did well. In 1935 American used the
planes in its milk-run on the Detroit - Chicago
route which included stops in Ann Arbor, Jackson,
Battle Creek, Kalamazoo and South Bend. The
longest scheduled hop on the route was the 38
minutes between South Bend and Chicago.
(Left) FORD 4-AT-56 NC-9613. Air Tours
Inc.(?) (Does anyone recognize the logo
on this airplane?)
The 4-AT was the first of the famous
Ford Tri-Motors that helped pioneer
commercial passenger service in the
United States. It was the largest all-
metal aircraft built in the U.S. up to that
time and featured corrugated Alclad
covering. The design quickly gained ac-
ceptance by the airlines and over 70 of
the series were constructed before pro-
duction ended in 1931.
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 7
DOUGLAS DC-4E. NX-18100. United Air Lines
This aircraft, the first of the large four-engine tricycle landing gear transports, cost one million dollars in 1938. First flown during
June of 1938, the triple-tailed DC-4E was the world's largest landplane. The well know racer plane designer and race pilot, Benny
Howard, was one of the aircraft's test pilots. In November of 1939, the DC-4E was used by United Air Lines on an extended tour
of most of the United States. Though impressive, United felt that the transport needed modification to become a satisfactory air-
liner. United had ordered 6 of the type for delivery in early 1941. Although five major airlines had shown interest, no one but
United wanted to order the aircraft. The DC-4E prototype was sold to Japan late in 1939. (That's a whole story in itself!) Douglas
redesigned the entire concept and 60 orders for the smaller single-tailed DC-4 came forth from United, Eastern, American,
Transworld, and Pan American airlines. Because of the war, the production of these aircraft were taken over by the Army as the
C-54, with first deliveries in May of 1942.
8 DECEMBER 1995
by H.G. Frautschy
From the collection of W. Hendon we have this month's
Mystery Plane, designed and flown in the high plains. The an-
swer will be published in the March, 1996 issue of Vintage Air-
plane. Answers for that issue must be recieved no later than
January 25, 1996.
The September Mystery Plane was an unknown
for most , but a pair of longtime readers were able
to pin it down. Both Charley Hayes, New Lenox,
IL and Remo Galeazzi, Petaluma, CA came up
with the right answer. Here's Charley's answer:
"The Mystery Plane on page 6, September 1995
Vintage Airplane is the Tiffany Sport. It was under-
powered by a converted Harley Davidson motorcycle
engine. Sarter Tiffany designed and built this about
1924."
And from Remo we have this:
"The Sept. issue Mystery Plane is the Tiffany
Sport. It was designed and built in 1924 by Sarter
Tiffany and was powered by an 18 h.p. converted
Harley Davidson cycle engine. The caption states
that the craft had an extremely short wing span and
required plenty of space for take-off!"
Jack McRae supplied us with a copy of the photo, which is
originally credited to the U.S. Air Force. Jack wrote that the
Tiffany Sport was one of the airplanes entered in the Light
Airplane events at the 1925 National Air Races held at
Mitchel Field, Long Island, NY in October 1925, and included
a copy of an account of the Dayton Daily News Trophy race
published in the October 19, 1925 edition of Aviation, The
Tiffany had engine trouble and was merely taxiied across the
start line so that Sarter Tiffany could get his entrance fee re-
turned. In that same race, Ed Heath also had trouble with his
converted Harley Davidson powered machine, the " Hum-
mingbird," and was also unable to actually fly in the race.
Both racers did fly in the Light Place Efficiency event, but the
Tiffany experienced a loss of engine lower and was forced to
land on the Salisbury Club golf course. According to the arti-
cle " He (Tiffany) gave the spectators quite a thrill at the start
as he had great difficulty getting off the ground and bumped
along for a half mile before his sputtering motor gave him suf-
ficient lifting power. "
Both Remo and Charley used "Experimental Light Aircraft
and Midget Racers" by John Underwood and John Caler (Aero
Publishers, 1958) as their source of information. ...
1924 Tiffany Sport
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 9
WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE RESTORING 
------------------------------- by Norm Petersen 
Dave Tyndall's Luscombe 8A
This very pretty 1946 Luscombe 8A, NC71373, SIN 2800,
was restored by David Tyndall (EAA 116326, AIC 7288) and
his father, Jim Tyndall, of Mechanicsville, VA. Sadly, Jim
Tyndall didn't live to see the first flight of the 8A on Septem-
ber 7,1995, having passed away prior to the airplane's com-
pletion. The Luscombe was completely disassembled with
every nut and bolt replaced. In addition, the Continental
A65-8 was majored along with all accessories. A new lower
cowl from Univair was used to clean up the nose area. A
Sensenich 76KCK44 wooden prop was installed. The wings
were stripped, cleaned and primed and new leading edges,
cables and pulleys installed. Covering was done in Ceconite
102 using the Air-Tech process. The Luscombe was painted
with Air-Tech polyurethane white and DuPont Centari
Boston maroon was used for the trim. A new interior was
installed along with gray flock coating on the metal panels.
Complete with wheel pants, the neat Luscombe cuts a pretty
picture. Congratulations to you, David, and best wishes on
your next project , a big cabin Waco EGC-8, NC2329, SIN
5062.
Brazil ian Sti nson 108-3
This photo of a Stinson 108-3 under rebuild was sent in by
Moyses Gomes Da Silva of Recife Pernambuco, Brazil. The
workmanship appears to be excellent with everything well
primed for long term corrosion control. Note the outside bag-
gage door, common to the dash three, and the Scott 3200 tail-
wheel. In the foreground is a Cub fuselage and between the
108-3 landing gear is a wheel pant from a Piper Pacer or Clip-
per. What a fascinating hangar to browse through! Perhaps
Moyses will send us a photo of the Stinson 108-3 when it takes
to the air. Unti l then, best wishes on the project.
Dolf Battifarano's Piper Cub Coupe
Posing in its fresh coat of paint is a 1939 Piper J-4A
Cub Coupe, N22966, SIN 4-522, that just came out of a 1-
112 year restoration by its owner, Adolf Battifarano
(EAA 443983, A/C 21693) of Oakland, NJ. Dolf wants
to especially thank his veteran lA, Bill Shatt (EAA 19706,
A/C 3381), of Matamoras, PA, who rigged, licensed and
test flew the J-4A. (Bill Shatt is also an EAA Technical
Counselor.) Powered with a Continental A-65, the wood-
spar J-4A makes a dandy two-place airplane and looks es-
pecially nice with the large wing numbers, the correct
stripe and a shiny new wooden propeller. There are 192
J-4A Coupes remaining on the FAA register. Congratu-
lations to Dolf on a really nice looking airplane. We
would love to see it at Oshkosh in '96.
10 DECEMBER 1995
Andrew King's Ryan M-l replica
The big square fuselage in the photo is the substantial begin-
ning of Andrew King's replica Ryan M-1 cabin job. As Andy
says, "The project started in March of this year and as of now,
the fuselage is welded up and the various accoutrements are
going in - seat mounts, cowling attach tubes, and so forth."
Apparently, information on the Ryan M-1 is difficult to come
by, however, Andy discovered that Bob Buck, living just 30
miles away, had an original Ryan M-1 fuselage hanging in his
hangar - and he agreed to loan Andy the fuse lage to copy.
Perhaps the readers of VINTAGE AIRPLANE could help in
tracing the history of Bob Buck's fuselage . It came from
southern California and was apparently at Tallmantz Aviation
during the time of the filming of the movie, "The Spirit of St.
Louis." It must have flown into the late 1930's as there are
fiber stop nuts in evidence. The following clues might help -
the front cockpit has been closed in but not the back, wheel
brakes have been added and the fuselage sheet metal has been
extended down the fuselage sides several feet aft of the fire-
wall. If anybody has a picture of such an airplane, we would
like to see it. In addition, Andy would like any information on
Homer Roy Webber, who ran Webber Airport in Inglewood,
California, in the late 1920's and owned an M-l.
The second picture is a Jenny fuselage that Andy and Ken
Hyde are building at Ken Hyde' s shop for the Army Aviation
Museum at Fort Sill, OK. Note on the wall in the background,
a Ryan rib, a Jenny rib and a Wright Model B rib.
(Andrew's phone number is 703-830-0376 in Centreville, V A)
Ken West's Beech Bonanza
Photographed at Munsil Williams ' farm
strip near Pickett, WI, is a 1958135 Beechcraft
Bonanza, N58KW, SIN D-5690, that is the
pride and joy of Ken West (EAA 211828, AlC
24715) of Clintonville, WI. With a 260 hp
Continental IO-470N engine and long range
tip tanks, the 135 Bonanza is a dandy cross-
country machine with a good cruise of 165 kts.
and about a six hour range. Ken has flown the
pretty Contemporary class bird all over the
U.S.
Charlie Bell's Fairchild 22 GO
These photos of a 1933 Fairchild 22 C7D, NC9479, SIN
909, under restoration were sent in by owner-rebuilder Char-
lie Bell of Ocklawaha, Florida. The cute tandem parasol will
be powered with the original Wright-Gypsy 90 hp engine (up-
right four-banger) and will be finished in original colors.
With full-length ailerons and complete ball bearing controls,
the "22" is a delightful airplane to fly and if Charlie Bell has
his way, it will be a trophy airplane. Charlie and Donna Bell's
yellow and green Fairchild 24W was EAA Oshkosh Grand
Champion Antique just a few years back.
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11
Getting  Your  Project 
Home 
by Dan  Halloran 
Because  Travel 
Can  Get A Little Tricky ___ 
My "mighty" 1983 Honda Civic Wagon
has proven to be a reli able tug in two in-
stances, and I thought these photos may be
interesting if you contemplate transporting
your project to your home shop.
After deciding to recover the wings of
a Cessna 140 (NC 89429) I used the
Honda to transport the wings and then
later to two the fuselage some 5 mil es to
my home for dead storage for the dura-
tion of the project. An early morning trip
on a Sunday avoided the inquiring eyes
of the police and saved money. The fuse-
lage then spent a cool winter wrapped in
plastic, but it is now being reassembled.
The hangar rental actuall y paid for the
(Top)  In  Marshall, TX,  Dan is ready to head 
back to Marshfield, WI  with his next pro-
ject.  Since the wings needed a lot of work, 
Dan wasn't too worried about the leading 
edges.  Look closely, and you'll see a lot of 
duct tape used to hold the wings to the 
fuselage, and the entire unit is tied to the 
car top carrier. 
(Above)  He  made it!  Only a nose rib or 
two were lost along the way.  Every part 
of the Vagabond  is either in or on the car. 
wing recovering materials from Stits.
Having a soft spot in my heart for the
Piper Vagabond (PA-17) prevented me
from passing up a n ad in EAA' s Sport
Aviation about a few years ago. I bought
it sight unseen from Jeff Herring of Mar-
shall , TX.
The next problem was transport ation of
the airplane back to Wi sconsi n. Knowing
the size and weight , and being basically an
adventuresome sort I decided to drive my
Honda Civic wagon (a 1983 model with
150,000 miles) to Texas, ti e the Vagabond
on my car-top carrier, stiff the tail surfaces,
engine, cowling, etc. inside and head for
Wisconsin. Seemed st raight enough for
me! And it was.
The entire airplane, includ-
ing the engine, is either on or in
the Honda. r did remove all but
the driver's seat prior to the
trip.. Fully loaded I still had
rear visibility and road stabili ty.
There was nothing adverse to
report, although my gas mileage
did drop to 18 mpg. (Your
mileage may vary.)
In Okl ahoma a police patrol car fol-
lowed me a mile or so, flashing his lights up
to get a look at the curious structure, and
then passed without further questioning.
At rest stops and gas stations I got tired
of expl aining what r was carrying, so I
st art ed making up names. " Oh, that 's a
Texas TV tower!" "Oh, that? It' s an an-
tique oil ri g." "Yup, that's an airboat."
The sign on the si de window r eads:
"SOME ASSEMBLY REQUIRED. " If 
anyone travels the route from Texas to
Wi sconsin, keep and eye out for my miss-
ing nose ribs. It seems a few depa rt ed
company wi th the wing that did not have a
leading edge installed.
*  *  *  * 
Editor's note: The old saw that "Necessity
is the mother of invention" sure applies here!
If I would be concerned about making such a
trip, it would only be worrisome if the airplane
still had covering on it - all of the additional
side area above the CG  of the car could be a
problem in a crosswind. But with the covering
off, as in Dan's case, about all it did was add a
bunch of drag. ....
(Right)  A pretty winters day set the scene 
for an early Sunday morning move home 
using a Honda Civic wagon as a tug. 
12  DECEMBER 1995 
Brad Thomas'
D 1 7 R Beechcraft
Staggerwing
by H.G. Frautschy
How would you define fortunate? In
monetary terms perhaps, or do you
measure it with regard to accomplish-
ments? Or perhaps a compilation of
many things. Good friends and a sense
that you have contributed to the causes
and values you hold dear would cer-
tainly make you feel fortunate.
Walter "Brad" Thomas (EAA 82476,
A/C 2014) of Pilot Mountain, NC proba-
bly feels he is a fortunate man. A past
President of the Division, Brad has also
had a successful professional life, estab-
lishing a hosiery manufacturing business
in Pilot Mountain which he has watched
grow over the years. Like so many
youngsters of the 1930's, he was an
avowed airplane nut, and was able to
solo a Cub in 1938 at the age of sixteen.
Previous to that, he was an avid model
airplane builder. After prep school at
McCallie School in Chattanooga, TN
and a year of college, he volunteered for
the Army Air Corps cadet program, and
was shipped out to Maxwell Field in Al-
abama. A transfer to the British Flying
Training School No.5 in Clewiston, FL
had him training to earn both RAF and
Air Corps wings. In what must have
been a rude change of climates, he left
Florida and was assigned to the 7th Ferry
Group, Great Falls, MT. He served dur-
ing the War years as a ferry pilot flying
everything you can imagine - fighters,
twins, and multi-engine airplanes were
ferried by Brad to their various bases.
After he returned from the War, he
married his girlfriend Ferne and went
back to school to complete his college
degree (he attended both MIT in Cam-
bridge, MA and High Point College). Es-
tablishing the hosiery business came
next. Airplanes were never far away - he
still maintained a keen interest in avia-
tion, and it would become a lifelong
hobby. Brad holds a commercial pilots
certificate with single and multi-engine
land ratings, and an instrument rating.
He is one of the early members of An-
tique/Classic Chapter 3, serving as its
president during the late 1970's-early
1980's and as a member of its executive
committee. Even with all that work, his
contributions to sport aviation and an-
tique/classic aviation were not yet com-
plete by any stretch of the imagination.
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 13
He had served as the Chi ef Cl assic judge
at EAA Oshkos h, and he al so was th e
Secretary of the Antique/Class ic Divi-
sion until 1979, when he was appoint ed
by the A/C Board of Directors to com-
pl et e the pr es identi al t e rm of J . R.
Ni elander , who had to r esign as A/ C
President when Pan Am decided th ey
needed mo re of hi s time . Brad was
elected by the Membership to be presi-
dent in 1980, and continued in that ca-
pacity until 1983. Since then, he' s been
busy in other face ts of flying and rebuild-
ing old airpl anes and homebuilts.
One of th e ai rpl anes that had lo ng
held Brad in its spell was the Beechcraft
Model 17. Invited to join his friend Dick
Austin at the Staggerwing Convention at
Tullahoma, TN in the early 1970s, he de-
cided that he would have one someday.
Type Clubs can often mean the differ-
14 DECEMBER 1995
ence betwee n findin g your dream ai r-
p la ne o r spending what seems like an
endl ess amount of time chas ing aft er
leads that never seem to pan out. He let
it be known within the Staggerwing Club
that he was int erested in buying one of
the negat ive-st agger Beechcr aft s. In
1978, George York, who serves as the
secretary of the St aggerwing Club and
has amassed a tremendous amount of
personal knowledge about the airpl ane,
gave Brad a call to tell him that he knew
of an airplane that Brad mi ght be inter-
ested in buying.
Tommy Wit chey, of Be lmo nt , OH,
had one of the rarest Model 17's in exis-
tence. A D17R, the " R" designated the
use of a 420 hp Wri ght R-975-E3. Only
26 were built , and of those, most have
been converted to the D17S confi gura-
tion. At the beginning of the summer of
1995, onl y two of the Wri ght powered
" R" mode ls st ill existed and onl y one
was fl ying.
The 1937 refinement of the Stagger-
wing saw the first major changes of the
design since the B17L was built in 1934.
The di stinctive " pinched fuselage" was
accentuat e d whe n th e fuse lage was
lengthened 13-5/16" to give the airpl ane
bett er elevator res ponse, particul arl y
during landing. Other structural differ-
e nces we re the e nginee ring of a full y
cantilevered tail group, with no struts or
brace wires. The wings saw changes too
- the ail erons were moved from the lower
to the uppe r wing, a nd the fl a ps were
moved to the lower wing. At the same
time the Wri ght power ed mode l was
built, the factory was beginning to build
the same airframe with a Pratt & Whit -
ney R-985 of 450 hp installed. The D17S
would be one of the most popular of the
Staggerwings, with over 68 civilian mod-
els built before WW II out of the 781
various models constructed. (Many more
were built as Navy GB-2 or Army UC-43
models during the War.)
Before Tommy bought the airplane,
there were thirteen previous owners, in-
cluding the U.S. Government, who im-
pressed the airplane into service during
the war years.
When Brad first saw the airplane, it
hadn't been flown very often, and a num-
ber of bird nests had to be removed dur-
ing the process of making the airplane
ready to fly again. To Brad, it was obvi-
ous that he was buying a flying restora-
tion project - the metal and fabric both
needed help, and the engine wasn't feel-
ing too well either. It had been through
a "rebuild" earlier in the decade after a
gear-up landing and, while most of the
repairs were adequate, it was not a show
plane by any means.
Brad continued to fly the airplane for a
short while. It was then decided a rebuild
was in order. Since the covering was grade
A cotton with a dope finish, rejuvenation
was an option, and so it was done, along
with some new dope. Still it just didn't
progress the way Brad wanted, and so he
decided to call in one of the experts.
Bern "Doc" Yocke is a name that
should be familiar to many of our mem-
bers - he and his craftsmen at Doc's Air
Service in Sandwich, IL did the restora-
tion of a number of Staggerwings fea-
tured in the pages of Vintage Airplane
over the years. The most recent of them
was Jim Porter' s D-17S, winner of the
EAA OSHKOSH '92 Grand Champion
Super clean describes the outstanding workmanship that was put into
this Staggerwing by Bern " Doc" Vocke and his crew at Doc's Air Service,
Sandwich, IL. The landing gear on the Staggerwing is retracted by an
electric motor driving a set of bicycle chains. A full set of gear doors
completely encloses the gear in flight.
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 15
A very original panel was what Brad
wanted, and Doc gave him just that, with
a short radio stack built up and installed
on the floor below the center of the
panel. All of the instruments are original,
except for the airspeed indicator. The
tach is unusual in that the pointer rotates
one complete revolution for every 1,000
rpm. The small number on the left half of
the dial indicates the number of times the
pointer has gone around the dial.
Antique award. Doc was one of the first
Antique/Classic members and was one of
its first directors, helping get the Division
off the ground as member No. 60. Doc
earned his nickname through dental
school - before he became a full time re-
storer, he was a D.D.S., earning his living
as a dentist. But as his skills and reputa-
tion grew over the years (an A&P in 1967,
an IA in 1970), he found he had less time
for dentistry than airplanes, and so Doc's
Air Service was born.
Doc Yocke is also a Ham radio opera-
tor, and one of his contacts over the air-
waves was none other than Brad Thomas!
Sharing their love of airplanes and Stag-
gerwings in particular was how they first
met, and when Doc had a slot open in his
shop for a Staggerwing restoration, Brad
made the decision to have the airplane
done. Doc and two of his employees
headed down to pick up the airplane and
bring it back to Sandwich in July of 1992.
Brad was a good boy during all of the
time Doc needed to completely go over all
of the airframe. He would stop by and
visit on his way up to the Convention in
Oshkosh, and during the first year, he
only saw the airplane twice. But the sec-
ond year, as the big cabin biplane came to-
gether, he was fascinated. "Every time I
would look my eyes would get bigger!"
Brad recalled.
All sorts of rework and reconstruction
went into this particular Staggerwing. A
major portion of the work that had to be
16 DECEMBER 1995
done related to the wing spars (they
needed a couple of splices to get them
shipshape) and some of the fuselage
needed work as well. Brad was intrigued
by the outstanding woodwork done by the
craftsmen at Doc's, along with the restora-
tion of most of the sheet metal.
The Wright engine was in pretty tough
shape, and the R-975 is not a common en-
gine any longer. Brad had the powerplant
shipped to Mike Connors who lived in
Florida at the time. Mike did a true major
overhaul, replacing the crankshaft, rods,
pistons, rings, and supercharger bearings
with factory new parts.
Even the 2D30 Hamilton Standard
prop was new. Well, almost brand new - it
only had a couple of flights on it. Dub
Yarbrough, past president of the Stagger-
wing Foundation, had a 2D30 prop that he
had loaned once to a fellow who had
flipped his Staggerwing over on landing,
and needed a new prop to get it back
home. After he returned the prop, Dub
put it on the shelf until it was needed by
Brad, who was able to purchase it for his
Staggerwing. After a complete overhaul,
it was mounted on the newly-majored
Wright.
Most of the instruments were the origi-
nals, and could be reused, with the excep-
tion of the airspeed indicator, which
couldn't get through an overhaul. The
tachometer was unusual, in that the
pointer rotates once around every 1,000
revolutions, and a number for every thou-
sand is shown in a window on the dial.
This D17R also came equipped from the
factory with dual controls and a "T" yoke,
instead of the throw-over yoke found on
many other Staggerwings (and Bonanzas,
for that matter) . Since he didn't plan on
flying the airplane IFR, a Nav/Comm, Lo-
ran and transponder with encoder filled
out the avionics department. In the inter-
est of safety, the old fusebox was replaced
with a circuit breaker panel.
Like so many of us, Brad has relied for
years on the enthusiasm of his wife Ferne
for support and when it came to the Stag-
gerwing, he wanted to be sure and do a lit-
tle something for her, so a leather interior,
just like the one you could order from
Beechcraft in 1937, was created and in-
stalled. Brad kidded that he did them to
make brownie points with Ferne, but talk-
ing to him, it was pretty obvious that he
valued his wife's opinion highly, and
wanted to please her in some way when it
came to the Staggerwing's restoration.
In June of 1994, Doc made the call to
Brad to tell him that his Staggerwing was
ready. A hop on a commercial flight to
Midway Airport in Chicago had him on
his way, and he says that when he first
walked into the hangar, he couldn't be-
lieve his eyes.
"I had never seen it totally finished
with all the sheet metal on it and all the
other stuff. It was so darn pretty I couldn't
even talk!" Covered in Ceconite and fin-
ished in Dupont Imron , it positively
glowed.
A few glitches, easily remedied, were
encountered, and Brad was thrilled with
his new Staggerwing. He was honored
that his airplane was the first airplane
housed overnight in Staggerwing Club
president Jim Gorman's new hangar.
EAA OSHKOSH '94 was a wonderful
time for Brad. After so many years of ef-
fort and desire went into the project, the
award presented as the Bronze Age An-
tique Runner-up was simply a little icing
on the cake. It was a dream come true.
To be honest, this paragraph is the
toughest I've ever had to write. Words
can't express the pain felt by Brad when
his beloved Staggerwing was lost due to
fire on the return trip from the Conven-
tion. A gear up landing exposed one of
the the few flaws that exists on the air-
plane. During a gear up landing on a
paved surface, the belly fuel tank drains
can contact the pavement, and be ground
off, spilling fuel everywhere. One spark
can set off the entire spill, engulfing the
airplane. The airplane was completely de-
stroyed on landing at the Sandwich air-
port, and Brad was fortunate to escape
with his life. Understandably, Brad was
disconsolate over the airplane's loss, but
over the next year, with the help of his
many friends throughout the antique com-
munity and particularly in EAA A/C
Chapter 3, he was able to climb into the
cockpit of his Cessna 170 again and enjoy
flying for all the same reasons that he had
started with as a sixteen-year-old in 1938.
Still, it must have been tough for him, and
we have to commend him for "climbing
into the saddle again." ...
Sometimes the best seem to be here only
for an instant, and then they're gone, leav-
ing us with snapshots and smiles. It's im-
portant to remember the smiles, for they re-
mind us about the times that really matter.
Tom  Leaver's 
Morane-Saulnier MS.230 
"PARASOL" 
by Tom  Leaver 
(EAA 482978, Ale 25044),  London,  England 
An  Instance  Where 
Perseverance 
Pays  Off.. . 
I po"h",d the Mo"ne-S,u'ni"
MS.230 parasol in a sound but derelict
condition in May of 1990 from the Honor-
able Patrick Lindsay' s estate (the Lindsay
collection was substantial in number.)
The project was turned over to the crew at
Personal Plane Services (PPS) who really
went to work and by November of '90, the
aircraft was ready.
However, there were several unfore-
seen problems, most notably the exhaust
ring and timing gearing were in need of
specialist remanufacture as no spares ex-
ist. This, together wi th a fa ulty starter
magneto, kept the aircraft on the ground
more often than I like to recall. Nonethe-
less, perseverance and my check book
prevailed such that by 1993, I began to fly
her with reasonable confidence and relia-
bility. We had a spectacular and unchar-
acteristic English summer for 1994 and
consequently flew almost 50 hours, which
is a lot for this type of aircraft. Total to
date is just over 100 hours.
The airplane is completely original, in-
cluding the instruments, though I have
had a Comms radio (VHF communica-
tion) and battery installed for practicality.
The airframe including all the ribs,
stri ngers and longerons are original , al-
though they were stripped and recondi-
tioned during restoration and Irish Linen
used for recovering.
As far as history is concerned, the
MS.230 came out of the French Air Force
on July 27,1949; was sent back to the fac-
tory for overhaul and placed into storage
on December 14, 1949. She then came
out of storage in February of the follow-
ing year, though I have no further record
until August 28,1952, when she was
placed on the French civil register in Paris
as F-8GJT. Thereafter, she flew for vari-
ous French Aeroclubs (some MS .230's
were used as glider tugs) and eventually
purchased by the Hon. Patrick Lindsay in
1967, and flown to England by Bert Good-
child later that same year. She was then
registered G-AVE8 with the CAA as
Patrick's first airplane (the first of sev-
eral) until his death in 1985. When I ac-
quired her, she had not been flown since
1982.
The late Manx Kelly flew her in aero-
batic competition in the UK in the early
1970's and she was the "back up" aircraft
for the movie, "The Blue Max." The ac-
tual MS.230 flown in the movie now re-
sides in the San Diego Aviation Museum.
She is a delight to fly and a challenge
to land and taxi, being of an unforgiving
nature in this respect.
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17
Morane-Saulnier MS.230 
TheEARLY
DAYS
C on,eiVOd by. F<en,h .i""ft
company noted for parasol type air-
planes, the Morane-Saulnier MS.230
was first noted in the 1930 edition of
J ane's All the World's Aircraft. The
number came from the 230 horsepower
developed by the nine-cylinder Salmson
9Ab radial engine of the early 1930' s.
A far larger engine than one would
guess, when looking at the extremely
fine photos by Richard Paver - the
Salmson 230 had a bore of 4.94 in. and a
long stroke of 6.7 in. resulting in a dis-
by Norm Petersen placement of 1146 cu. in. - nearly
halfway between a P & W R-985 and an
18 DECEMBER 1995
R-1340. The 230 hp was developed at
1,700 rpm with later models cranking
out 260 hp at 1,780 rpm. With a net
weight (minus accessories) of 584Ibs., it
is easy to see why the MS.230 has a short
nose to keep the CG within bounds on a
rather small airplane.
Construction of the MS.230 is best
described as "robust" or to put it in the
vernacular, "hell-for-stout." A two seat,
tandem trainer, it was built to accom-
modate ham-fisted students and literally
unrestricted aerobatics including out -
side loops and snap-roll s at nearly any
speed. With an empty weight listed at
1835 Ibs. and a gross of 2658 Ibs., it is
easy to see how the determined French
engin eers packed a huge amount of
strength into this particular parasol de-
sign.
The MS.230 was the mainstay of the
training cadre in France for over twenty
years, from 1930 to about 1949 or 1950
with over 1100 being constructed by the
time production ended in the late 1940's.
Besides student training, many MS.230
parasols were used for years as glider
tugs, the big radial engine being a nat-
ural to pull a glider aloft with absolute
authority at minimum speed.
Richard Paver catches the MS.230 over
the English countryside and we get a
good look at the airplane. Note the ab-
sence of brake cables, etc. as there are
no brakes on the airplane. The large
"belly" fuel tank is held on with two sub-
stantial straps and can be dropped in an
emergency. The workmanship done by
PPS looks to be outstanding.
Probably the best exposure of the
MS.230 to the aviation world was in the
movie, "The Blue Max," when the hero
(played by George Peppard) flew the
Morane in some exciting scenes. That
particular MS.230 now resides in the
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19
San Diego Aviation Museum. The sub-
ject of this story, MS.230, registered G-
A VEB in Great Britain, was the backup
aircraft for the movi e, but was not
needed.
There are presently only three air-
worthy examples of the MS.230 still fly-
ing. Tom Leaver 's G-A VES, Kermit
Weeks' example in Florida and one in
the Jean Salis collection in France, so
these photos are of a rare airplane!
Tom Leaver' s paint job is an authen-
tic 1930's French Air Force scheme of
the Premier Escadri ll e Legere de De-
fence based at Le Bourget in 1937-1938.
The colors depict an obse rvation air-
craft with whit e bars across the wings
and tai l surfaces denoting that it was a
squadron observation hack and not a
fighter.
In the MS.230, the pilot occupies the
rear cockpit and the airplane rests at a
Cr uising over the lush green English
countryside, the Morane-Saulni er
MS.230 presents a pretty picture for
Richard Paver' s camera. That' s owner,
Tom Leaver, in the rear cockpit with the
helmet and goggles. Note the close
spacing of the wing ribs, so typical of an
aerobatic aircraft along with the massive
wing struts. The engine t urns the prop
counter clockwise, opposi te t o the
American engines.
rather steep ground angle, making the
forward visibility nil. In addition, it has
no brakes, so the directional stability
gets a bit tricky at times and a real test
for the pilot , especially with a tailskid
ins tead of the traditional tailwheel.
Crosswi nd landings increase the pucker
factor by several points. Upon comple-
ti o n of the r ebuild , Tom Leaver was
carefully coached by instructor Jo-
nathon Whaley, who has obviously done
a superb job as Tom now admits to just
over a hundred hours on the MS.230 to
date and everything working fine.
A most hearty " thank you" to Tom
Leaver for sharing his treasure with our
readership and to author and photogra-
pher, Richard Paver, for an outstanding
job of aerial photography on a very rare
airplane.
PLU NO. 21-37444
20 DECEMBER 1995
Type Club 
LISTING 
Once again, as a service to our members,  we present the Antique/Classic  Division's most current list of type clubs and related organizations. 
If your group  is  not listed, please provide us  with  information  which  can be included in  a future issue of VINTAGE AIRPLANE and it will be 
added to our follow-up  for  next year (We'll  also list  you  immediately in  NC NEWS).  If you  have changes related to your listing,  please drop 
a postcard in  the  mail  with  the new listing exactly as you  would like it to appear.  Send it to: Antique/Classic Type  Clubs, EAA  Aviation  Cen-
ter, P.G.  Box 3086, Oshkosh,  WI  54903-3086. 
A new list category has  been added to compile the clubs that may not be specific to one particular aircraft  make, ie.,  The  National Biplane 
Association.  You'll  find  this  new listing before the Organizations  list on  page 24. 
Aeronca Aviator's Club 
Julie and Joe Dickey 
55 Oakey Ave. 
Lawrenceburg, IN  47025 
812/537-9354 
Newsletter: 4 issues per subscription 
Dues:  None - $16 subscription 
International Aeronca Ass'n 
"Aeronca Lover's Club" 
Buzz Wagner 
Box 3, 401  1st St.  East 
Clark,  SD 57225 
605/532-3862 
Newsletter: Quarterly 
Dues:  $20 per year 
National Aeronca Association 
Jim Thompson,  President 
806 Lockport Road 
P.  O. Box 2219 
Terre Haute, IN  47802-0219 
812/232-1491 
Newsletter: 4 per year  . 
Dues:  $25  U.S. , $35 Canada, 
$45  Foreign 
Aeronca Sedan Club 
Robert Haley 
475  Rincon Ave. 
Livermore, CA 94550 
510/447-5615 
Newsletter: 3 per year 
Dues:  $5  per year 
World Beechcraft Society 
Alden C.  Barrios 
1436 Muirlands Drive 
La Jolla, CA 92037 
619/459-5901 
Magazine 
Dues: $20  per year 
Bellanca-Champion Club 
Lawrence  D'Attilio - Founder 
P.O. Box 708 
Brookfield, WI  53008-0708 
414/783-6559 -6558 (Fax) 
Newsletter: Quarterly "Bellanca Contact! " 
Dues:  $34  per year (2  yrs./$53), 
Foreign $40 (2  yrs./ $59  U.S. Funds) 
Bird Airplane Club 
Jeannie Hill 
P.  O.  Box 328 
Harvard,  IL 60033 
815/943-7205 
Newsletter: 2-3 annually 
Dues:  Postage Donation 
American Bonanza Society 
Ken  Johnson, Administrator 
P.  O. Box 12888 
Wichita, KS 67277 
316/945-6913 
FAA 316/945-6990 
Newsletter: Monthly 
Dues: $45  per year 
Staggerwing Club (Beechcraft) 
Jim Gorman,  President 
P.  O.  Box 2599 
Mansfield, OH  44906 
419/529-3822 (H), 755-1011  0NJ
Newsletter: Quarterly 
Dues: $20 per year 
Twin Bonanza Association 
Richard  I.  Ward, Director 
19684 Lakeshore Drive 
Three  Rivers,  MI  49093 
Phone/Fax 616/279-2540 
Newsletter: Quarterly 
Dues:  $30  per year U.S.  and  Canada, 
$40  Foreign 
Bucker Club 
Chris Arvanites 
16204 Rosemarie  Ln. 
Lockport, IL 60441 
815/436-1011 
Newsletter:  6 per year 
Dues:  $20  per year U.S.  & Canada, 
$25  Foreign 
National Bucker Club-
American Tiger Club, Inc. (deHaviliand) 
Frank Price, President 
Rt.  1, Box 419 
Moody, TX  76557 
817/853-2008 
Newsletter: 12 per year 
Dues:  $25  per year 
CaliAir Type Club 
Dave  Decker 
3307 Astro  Dr.,  Hereford, AZ 85615 
602/378-3688 
Cessna Airmaster Club 
Gar Williams 
9 So.  135 Aero  Drive, Naperville,  IL 60565 
708/904-8416 
Dues: None 
International Bird Dog Association 
(Cessna L-19) 
Phil  Phillips, President 
3939 C-8 San  Pedro,  NE 
Albuquerque,  NM  87110 
505/881-7555 
Newsletter: Quarterly "Observer" 
Dues:  $25  per year 
Cessna T-50 "Bambo Bomber" 
Jim Anderson, Secretary/Treasurer 
Box 269 
Marine on  St.  Croix,  MN 55047 
Newsletter:  Quarterly 
Dues: Contact club for info 
Cessna Owner Organization 
P.O. Box 5000 
lola, WI  54945 
715/445-5000 or 800/331-0038 
FAA: 715/445-4053 
E-Mail:  [email protected] 
Magazine: Monthly 
Dues: $42 year 
Cessna Pilots Association 
John  Frank, Executive Director 
P.O. Box 5817 
Santa Maria, CA 93456 
1/800/343-6416 
Newsletter: Monthly 
Dues:  $40 annually 
International Cessna 1201140 Assoc. 
Bill  Rhoades,  Editor 
Box 830092 
Richardson, TX 75083 
612/652-2221 
Newsletter: Monthly 
Dues: $15  U.S.  per year 
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21 
West Coast Cessna
120/140 Club
Don and  Linda Brand 
9087  Madrone Way 
Redding, CA 96002 
916/221-3732 
Newsletter:  Bimonthly 
Dues:  $10  per year 
Cessna 150/152 Club
Skip Carden,  Executive Director 
P. O.  Box  15388 
Durham,  NC 27704 
919/471-9492 
Newsletter:  Monthly 
Dues:  $20 per year 
Int. Cessna 170 Association, Inc.
Velvet Fackeldey, Executive Secretary 
P. O. Box 1667 
Lebanon, MO 65536 
417/532-4847 
Newsletter: Fly  Paper (11  per yer) 
The  170 News (Quarterly) 
Dues: $25  per year 
International Cessna
180/185 Club
(Cessna  180-185 Ownership Required) 
Johnny Miller 
3958  Cambridge Rd. # 185 
Cameron  Park, CA 95682 
916/672-2620 
Newsletter:  8-9  per year 
Dues:  $20  per year 
Eastern 190/195 Association
Cliff Crabs 
25575 Butternut Ridge  Rd. 
North Olmsted,  OH  44070-4505 
216/777-4025  after 6 PM  Eastern 
Newsletter: Irregular; 
Manual  on  maintenance for members 
Dues:  $15  initiation and  as required . 
International 195 Club-
Dwight M.  Ewing,  President 
P. O.  Box  737 
Merced, CA 95344 
209/722-6283 
FAX  209/722-5124 
Newsletter: Quarterly 
Dues: $25  per year U.S. 
Corben Club
Robert  L. Taylor, Editor 
P. O. Box 127 
Blakesburg, IA 52536 
515/938-2773 
Newsletter: 3 - 16 pg.  Newsletters 
Dues: $15for3 issues 
Culver Club
Larry  Low, Chairman 
60  Skywood Way 
Woodside, CA 94062 
415/851-0204 
Newsletter: None 
Dues:  None 
Culver PQ-14 Association
Ted  Heineman,  Editor 
29621  Kensington  Drive 
Laguna Niguel,  CA 92677 
714/495-4540 
Newsletter: Annual 
Dues:  Donation $10 
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Culver Aircraft Association
Dan  Nicholson 
723  Baker Dr. 
Tomball , TX  77375 
713/351-0114 
For newsletter and  dues info, 
contact the club. 
Dart Club (Culver)
Lloyd  Washburn 
2656  E. Sand  Rd. 
Pt.  Clinton,  OH  43452-2741 
Newsletter 
Dues: None 
Robin's Nest
(Curtiss Robin enthusiasts)
Jim  Haynes, Editor 
21  Sunset Lane 
Bushnell , IL 61422 
deHavilland Moth Club
Gerry Schwam, Chairman 
1021  Serpentine Lane 
Wyncote, PA  19095 
215/635-7000 or 886-8283 
FAX 215/635-0930 
Newsletter: Quarterly 
Dues: $15  US and  Canada, $15 Overseas 
deHavilland Moth Club of Canada
R.  deHaviliand Ted  Leonard, 
Founder/Director 
305 Old  Homestead  Road 
Keswick,  Ontarion  Canada L4P 1E6 
416/476-4225 
Newsletter:  Periodically 
Dues:  $20 annually 
Ercoupe Owners Club
Skip Carden, Executive Director 
P. O.  Box 15388 
Durham, NC 27704 
919/471-9492 
Newsletter: Monthly 
Dues:  $20  per year 
Fairchild Club
John W.  Berendt, President 
7645  Echo Point Road 
Cannon  Falls,  MN  55009 
507/263-2414 
Newsletter: Quarterly 
Dues:  $10  per year 
Fairchild Fan Club
Robert  L. Taylor,  Editor 
P. O.  Box 127 
Blakesburg, IA 52536 
515/938-2773 
Newsletter: 3 - 16 pg. Newsletters 
Dues:  $15for3 issues 
Fleet Club 
George G.  Gregory,  President 
4880  Duguid  Road 
Manlius,  NY 13104 
315/682-6380 
Newsletter: Approx.  2-3 per year 
Dues:  Contributions 
Funk Aircraft Owners
Association
Ruth  Ebey, Editor 
933  Dennstedt PI. 
EI  Cajon,  CA 92020 
316/943-6920 
Newsletter: 10 per year 
Dues:  $12 
Great Lakes Club
Robert  L.  Taylor,  Editor 
P. O. Box 127 
Blakesburg, IA 52536 
515/938-2773 
Newsletter: 3 - 16 pg. Newsletters 
Dues: $15for3 issues 
The American Yankee Association
Stew Wilson 
3232 Western  Drive 
Cameron  Park, CA 95682 
916/676-4292 
Newsletter 
Dues:  $30 per year U.S. , $30 Foreign 
Hatz Club
Robert  L.  Taylor, Editor 
P. O.  Box 127 
Blakesburg, IA 52536 
515/938-2773 
Newsletter: 3 - 16 pg. Newsletters 
Dues:  $15for3issues 
American Hatz Association
Lorin Wilkinson, President 
16225 143rd Ave. SE 
Yelm, WA 98597-9169 
Newsletter: Quarterly 
Dues: $10  U.S.,  Canada, $15 Foreign 
Heath Parasol Club
William  Schlapman 
6431  Paulson  Road 
Winneconne, WI  54986 
414/582-4454 
Howard Club-
Bruce Dickenson, President 
P.O. Box  191 
Santa Paula, CA 93060 
805/525-5893 
Newsletter: Quarterly 
Dues:  $15  per year 
The Interstate Club
Robert  L.  Taylor, Editor 
P.  O. Box  127 
Blakesburg,  IA 52536 
515/938-2773 
Newsletter: 3 - 16 pg. Newsletters 
Dues: $15for3 issues 
Lake Amphibian Flyers Club
Bill  Goddard,  Editor 
815  N. Lake  Reedy  Blvd. 
Frostproof,  FL 33843-9659 
Newsletter: Bi-monthly 
Dues $44  per year 
($74  the first year, includes 400  page book) 
Add $10 for overseas  mail) 
Continental Luscombe Association
Loren  Bump,  Fearless  Leader 
705  Riggs 
Emmett,  ID 83617 
208/365-7780 
Newsletter: Bimonthly (6  per year) 
Dues:  $10  U.S. and  Canada ($12.50  U.S. 
Funds),  $15 Foreign 
Luscombe Association
John  Bergeson, Chairman 
6438 W. Millbrook Road 
Remus, MI  49340 
517/561-2393  FAX 517/561-5101 
Newsletter:  6 per year 
Dues: $15  per year U.S.,  $20 Canada, 
$25  Foreign 
Meyers Aircraft Owners Association
William  E. Gaffney, Secretary 
26Rt.17K 
Newburgh, NY 12550 
914/565-8005 
Newsletter: 5-6 per year 
Dues:  Postage fund  donation 
Monocoupe Club
Bob Coolbaugh, Editor 
6154  River Forest Drive 
Manassas, VA 22111 
703/590-2375 
Newsletter: Monthly 
Dues: $15  per year 
Mooney Aircraft Pilots Assn. -
Mark Harris 
314  Stardust Drive 
San Antonio, TX  78228 
512/434-5959 
Newsletter 
Dues: $30 per year 
American Navion Society
Jerry Feather, Editor 
Lodi Municipal Airport 
59A Houston Ln. 
Lodi,  CA 95241 -1810 
209/339-42 13 
Magazine:  Bimonthly 
Dues: $45 per year 
Buckeye Pietenpol Association
6364  Franks Road 
Byrnes Mill , MO 63051-1103 
Newsletter: Quarterly 
Dues:  $10 per year U.S.,  $12  Canada 
&  Mexico, $15 all other countries 
International Pietenpol
Association
Robert  L.  Taylor, Editor 
P.O.Box 127 
Blakesburg,  IA 52536 
515/938-2773 
Newsletter: 3 - 16 pg. Newsletters 
Dues:  $15for3 issues 
Short Wing Piper Club, Inc.
Eleanor and  Bob Mills,  Editors 
220  Main 
Halstead,  KS 67056 
316/835-3307 (H); 
835-2235fY'/)
Magazine: Bimonthly 
Dues:  $30 per year 
Piper Owner Society
P.O. Box 5000 
lola, WI  54945 
715/445-5000 or 800/331 -0038 
FAX:  715/445-4053 
Magazine:  Monthly 
Dues: $42  year 
E-Mail:  [email protected] 
(24  hours) 
Cherokee Pilots Association-
P.O. Box 7927 
Tampa, FL 33673 
813/935-7492 
800/292-6003 
FAX 813/238-5889 
Magazine: 11  issues per year 
Dues: $28.00 (US) 
$30.00 Canada and  Mexico $40.00  Foreign 
International Comanche Society
Wiley  Post Airport 
Hangar #3 
Bethany, OK 73008 
Newsletter:  Monthly 
Dues:  $35  per year 
Cub Club
John  Bergeson, Chairman 
6438 W. Millbrook Rd. 
Remus, MI  49340 
517/561-2393 
FAX  517/561-5101 
Newsletter: 6 per year 
Dues:  $15  per year U.S. , $20  Canada, 
$25 Foreign 
L-4 Grasshopper Wing
Publisher: John  Bergeson, Cub Club 
6438 W.  Millbrook Rd. 
Remus, MI49340 
517/561 -2393 
FAX 517/561-5101 
Newsletter:  6 per year 
Dues: $10  per year U.S.,  $15 
Canada/US Funds,  $20 Foreign 
Note: Must also  be a Cub Club member 
Super Cub Pilots Association-
Jim Richmond, Founder/ Director 
P. O. Box 9823 
Yakima,  WA 98909 
509/248-9491 
Newsletter: 10 per year 
Dues: $25  per year U.S.,  $35 Canada, 
$40  Foreign 
Porterfield Airplane Club
Chuck Lebrecht 
91  Hickory Loop 
Ocala, FL 34472 
904/687-4859 
Newsletter: Quarterly 
Dues: $5  per year 
Rearwin Club
Robert L.  Taylor, Editor 
P. O. Box  127 
Blakesburg,  IA 52536 
515/938-2773 
Newsletter: 3 - 16 pg. Newsletters 
Dues: $15for3 issues 
National Ryan Club
Bill Hodges, Editor and  Historian 
19 Stoneybrook Ln. 
Searcy, AR 72143 
501/268-2620 
Newsletter: Quarterly 
Dues: $20  per year $25  overseas Airmail  and 
Canada 
Seabee Club International-
Captain Richard W. Sanders, President 
6761  NW 32nd Ave. 
Ft.  Lauderdale,  FL 33309-1221 
305/979-5470 
Newsletter: Quarterly (plus phone 
consultation), 
membership directory 
Dues:  $20  U.S.; $22  Canada, $25  Foreign 
The Stampe Collector-
Don  and  Bonnie Peterson, Editors 
1341  Chestnut Ridge Rd. 
Apalachlin, NY1732 
Newsletter: 4 per year 
Dues: $40  per year,  $45  U.S. Overseas 
Stearman Restorers
Association
Brian F. Riggs, President 
P.O.  Box 10663 
Rockvill e, MD 20849-0663 
Newsletter: 3 per year 
Dues:  $25 per year 
National Stinson Club
c/o Jonesy Paul  and George Alleman 
14418 Skinner Road 
Cypress, TX  77429 
713/373-0418 (JP) 
916/622-4004 (GA) 
Newsletter: Quarterly 
Dues: $15  per year 
National Stinson Club
(108 Section)
Bill  and  Debbie Snavley 
115 Heinley Road 
Lake Placid, FL 33852 
813/465-6101 
Quarterly magazine:  Stinson  Plane Talk 
Dues: $25  US, $30 Canada and  Foreign 
Southwest Stinson Club
Tony Wright,  Pres. 
2264 Los  Robles  Rd. 
Meadow Vista, CA 95722 
916/878-0219 
Newsletter: SWSC  Newsletter (11  per year) 
Dues:  $20  per year 
1-26 Association (Schweizer)
Division of the Soaring
Society of Ameri ca
c/o Tom  Barkow, Sec. Treas. 
1302 South Greenstone Ln. 
Duncanville, TX  75137 
214/296-3858 
Newsletter: 8 per year 
(plus a directory) 
Dues: $15 to 25  per year 
(Soaring  Society of America membership 
required  for voting privileges) 
Swift Association, International
Charlie Nelson 
P.  O.  Box 644 
Athens, TN 37303 
615/745-9547 
Newsletter: Monthly 
Dues:  $25  per year 
West Coast Swift Wing
c/o Denis Arbeau 
2644 W. Pueblo Ave. 
Napa, CA 94558-4318 
707/258-8120 
Newsletter: Monthly 
Dues:  $10  per year 
Taylorcraft Owner's Club
Bruce Bixler II , President 
12809 Greenbower,  N.E. 
Alliance, OH  44601 
216/823-9748 
Newsletter:  Quarterly 
Dues: $12  per year 
Travel Air Restorers Association
Jerry Impellezzeri, President 
4925 Wilma Way 
San Jose, CA  95124 
408/356-3407 
Currently inactive. 
Back newsletters available. 
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23 
Travel Ai r Club
Robert L. Taylor, Editor
P. O. Box 127
Blakesburg, IA 52536
515/938-2773
Newsletter: 3 - 16 pg. Newsletters
Dues: $15for3 issues
Travel Air Div. of
Staggerwing Museum
P. O. Box 550
Tullahoma, TN 37388
615/455-1974
Newsletter: 4-5 per year
Dues: $35 per year
American Waco Club
c/o Jerry Brown, Treasurer
3546 Newhouse Place
Greenwood, IN 46143
Phil Coulson, President 616/624-6490
Newsletter: Bi-monthl y
Dues: $25 per year, $30 Foreign
International Waco Association-
P.O. Box 665
Destin, FL 32540
904/654-4138
Quarterly magazine
Dues: $25.00 per year
National Waco Club
Ray Brandly, President
700 Hill Ave.
Hamilton, OH 45015
513/868-0084
Newsletter: Bimonthly
Dues: $10 per year, $14 foreign
MULTIPLE AIRCRAFT ORGANIZATIONS
Artic Newsletter-
David Neumeister
5630 S. Washington
Lansing, MI 48911 -4999
517/882-8433
Quarterly Newsletters for AA1, AA5,
Arrow, Baron, 310-320, 336-337, Malibu,
Musketeer, Norseman, Skipper, Tomahawk,
Varga, Maule
Dues: $10 per year per type except Maule
which is $20 for 12 issues
National Biplane Association
Charles W. Harris, Board Chairman
P.O. Box 470350
Tulsa, OK 74147-0350
918/622-8400
Dues: $25 Individual; $40 Family,U.S.;
add $10 for Foreign
North American Trainer Association
(T-6, T-28, NA64, NA50, P-51 , B-25)
Kathy and Stoney Stonich
25801 NE Hinness Road
Brush Prairie, WA 98606
360/256-0066 FAX 360/896-5398
Newsletter: Quarterly, Texans & Trojans
Dues: $40 U.S. and Canada,$50 Foreign
Replica Fi ghters Association-
Jim Felbinger, President
2409 Cosmic Dr.
Joliet, IL 60435
815/436-6948
Newsletter: Bimonthly
Dues: $20 per year
24 DECEMBER 1995
World War I Aeroplanes, Inc.
Leonard E. Opdycke
Director/ Publisher
15 Crescent Road
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
914/473-3679
Journals (4 times annually):WW I Aero
(1900-1919); Skyways (1920-1940)
Dues: Minimum - $25 each per year;
$30 Foreign for both Journals
ORGANIZATIONS
Society of Air Racing Historians
Herman Schaub, Sec.ITreas.
168 Marian Ln.
Berea, OH 44017
216/234-2301
Newsletter: Bimonthly "Golden Pylons"
Dues: $15 U.S., $18 Other
American Aviation
Historical Society
Timothy Williams, President
2333 Otis Street
Santa Ana, CA 92704
714/549-4818 (Tuesday, 7:00-9: 00 PM local)
Newsletter: Quarterly and Journal
Dues: $35
Flyi ng Farmers, International
Kathy Marsh, Office Manager
2120 Airport Road
P. O. Box 9124
Wichita, KS 67277
316/943-4234
Newsletter: 9 issues per year
Dues: $40 per year U.S. Funds,
plus Chapter dues
Luscombe Foundat ion
P. O. Box 63581
Phoenix, AZ 85082
602/917-0969
FAX 602/917-4719
Newsletter: Quarterly "Luscombe Update"
Subscription: $20 per year
International Liaison Pilot and
Aircraft Association (ILPA)
16518 Ledgestone
San Antonio, TX 78232
Bill Stratton, Editor
21 0/490-ILPA (4572)
Newsletter: "Liaison Spoken Here"
Dues: $29 per year US
$35 per year Foreign and Canada
Send for Free Copy of "Liaison Spoken
Here"
Minnesota Seaplane Pilots
Association
Loren Schiebe
6405 North Shore Dr.
Greenfield, MN 55373
612/477-6166
Newsletter: 3-4 per year
Dues: $15 per year ($25-2 yrs.)
National Air Racing Group-
Gerald L. Williams, President
P. O. Box 423
Shasta, CA 96087
916/241-2130
Newsletter: 10 issues per year, "Professional
Air Raci ng"
Dues: $10 per year, domestic
N3N Restorers Association
Gerald Miller
3320 Northridge Dr.
Grand Junction, CO 81506
303/245-7899
Newsletter
Dues: $12 per year
The 99s, Inc.-
International Women Pilots
Loretta Jean Gragg, Exec. Director
Will Rogers Airport
P. O. Box 59965
Oklahoma City, OK 73159
405/685-7969
Newsletter: MonthlylThe 99 News
Dues: $40 annually
OX-5 Aviat ion Pioneers-
Robert F. Lang
P. O. Box 201299
Austin, TX 78720
512/331-6239
Newsletter: 6 per year
Dues: $10 per year
Seaplane Pilots Association
Robert A. Richardson, Exec. Director
421 Aviation Way
Frederick, MD 21701
301/695-2083
Newsletter: Water Flying (Quarterly);
1996 Water Landing Directory
$16 - Members/$35 non-members
plus $4 shipping
Dues: $36 per year
Silver Wings Fraternity
P. O. Box 44208
Cincinnati, OH 45244
513/321-5822
Newsletter: Monthly
Slipstream Tabloid
Dues: $15 per year
Open to those who soloed
at least 25 yrs. ago.
Spartan School of Aeronautics
Alumni Association
8820 E. Pine Street
Tul sa, OK 74115
91 8/836-6886
Newsletter: Quarterly
Dues: $10 annually
Vintage Sailplane Association
Jan Scott, Secretary
Rt. 1, Box 239
Lovettsville, VA 22080
540/822-5504
Newsletter: Quarterly
Dues: $15 per year
Waco Historical Society, Inc.
Waco Aircraft Museum
W. F. Laufer, Treasurer
P. O. Box 62
Troy, OH 45373-0062
513/335-WACO 1-5 pm Sat.-Sun.
May through November
Newsletter: 4 per year
Dues: $10 per year, 9/1-8/31
- : Any club or organization with this mark did
not update their listing in November, 7995.
You may wish to contact them regarding cur-
rent dues/subscription information.
P   S S d ~
BUCK
by E.E. "Buck" Hilbert
EAA #21 Ale #5
P.O. Box 424, Union, IL 60180
Finally, I find some answers to the question of "WHY
can' t I use automotive oil in my airplane?"
I'm lucky enough to be on the subscribers' list of Air-
craft Maintenance Technology magazine. How this hap-
pened, I don't really know. Maybe it was because of my
involvement with the Aviation Rulemaking Advisory
Committee on behalf of you and all the rest of the EAA
01 L
• • •
automotive versus aviation
members. Tell you what, this has been a real learning ses-
sion. The ARAC sessions have taught me a lot and that
education is eventually going to trickle down and benefit
all the older airplane owners and operators. Look for
news in future issues of VINTAGE AIRPLANE.
Let's get back to oil. AMT did an article in their Sep-
tember, 1995 issue that deals with every question you've
ever had about using automotive oil in your aircraft en-
gine. If there is any possible way you can get a copy and
read it, do it!
The article explains the basic differences in the opera-
tion of auto vs. aircraft engines, and that, fellow aviators, is
the key to the answer I was looking for.
Auto engines don't run at maximum power for takeoff
and then, after a climb out at a slightly lesser power set-
ting, cruise at 75% power for sometimes several hours,
and in the frigid atmosphere we sometimes operate in.
They also aren't subject to the "shock cooling" we read
about, or the extreme heat-cold regimes we consider nor-
mal.
Years ago, before the advent of the high compression,
hi-tech auto engines of today, the manufacturing standards
were much the same for both types of engines. Not so to-
day. The automotive engines are now precision mecha-
nisms that give us a hundred thousand miles or more, and
aside from oil and filter changes, require very little mainte-
nance. The oils they use are compounded specifically for
the operating regimes of these engines. They have a
bunch of additives in them that preclude sludge formation,
ensure proper circulation and lubri cation when they're
both hot and cold, and have corrosion preventative quali-
ties as well.
I admit to using the single grade name brand oils in my
airplane in the past. They worked just fine. I changed oil
every 25 hours, and I even used the oil I drained out of the
airplane in my car because it was too clean to throwaway.
That's not the case today. I tried it and it doesn't work.
I used the fancy new multigrade racing oil in my A-65 and
when the consumption was unacceptable, I went to the sin-
gle grade. The results with that type of automotive oil
were less than satisfactory results too. I went back to avia-
tion multigrade and my oil consumption went back to nor-
mal, the blood pressure (oil) is steadier, and despite the
expense, the engine and I are happier.
Get yourself a copy of the September issue of Aviation
Maintenance Technology from Johnson Hill Press.
They're right here in Wisconsin at 1233 Janesville Avenue,
P. O. Box 803, Fort Atkinson, WI 53538-2604 (414/563-
6388, FAX 414/563-1702); Compuserve for you computer
hacks 75662,2604. Maybe they'll allow us to reprint the ar-
ticle at some later date.
Hey, be sure and read my editorial and send in a copy
of the survey form included on page 2 and 3 - it 's impor-
tant!
Over to you!
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25
New
Members
Remi Albagnac 
Christopher T.  Anderson 
Woodrow Anselen 
Stephen A. Bartlett 
Jack R. Beasley 
Gilles Beda 
Allan D. Belt 
Richard A.  Bond 
Bradley J.  Boote 
Torrey J. Brackett 
Buddy Bradford 
William L. Bradford 
Michael R. Butler 
Duane W.  Carlson 
Dan Clapsaddle 
Clark D.  Cloukey 
Morie 1.  Corman 
Glenn R. Crook 
George Crowe 
John E. Daugherty 
Bruce Dudley 
Gary English 
Arpajon, France 
Elgin, IL 
Irvine, CA 
Santa Barbara, CA 
Mulberry, FL 
Paris, France 
Lexington, KY 
Omro, WI 
Tonka Bay, MN
Mesa, AZ 
Dickinson, TX 
Independence, MO 
Calistoga, CA 
Ankeny, IA 
Pewee Valley, KY 
Annnapolis, MD 
Chappaqua, NY 
Columbia, IL
Fullerton, CA 
Las Vegas, NV 
Eagle, MI 
RoseBud, TX 
PeterD. Gill 
Charles L.  Hagen 
Gene HallMountian 
Norman J. Harrison 
Enid,OK 
Exeter,NH 
Green, UT 
Scarborough, Ontario, Canada 
Edwin Heiser  Livonia, MI
Claude I . Hobson  Bellevue, NE 
Joseph R. Hooker  Citra, FL 
Mark Howard  Grand Junction, CO 
Donald D.  Hughes  Apache Junction, AZ 
John W. Inman  Conroe, TX 
Joshua T. Jacobs  Santa Rosa, CA 
Richard W.  Jarman  Twin  Lake, MI
Norman Johansen  Medina, OH 
Robert E. Jones  Tacoma, WA 
JeffH. Judy  Nicholasville, KY 
Melvin  L.  Kalb  Scottsdale, AZ 
Kenneth R.  Kennedy  Mooresville, NC 
Robert J.  Kennedy  Vienna, V A 
Mike  Kinate  Colorado Springs, CO 
Col William  C.  Kingsbury, Jr. 
James R. Kinville 
Kenneth Krohncke 
Richard J. Kuhn 
Richard R. Kyle 
Minos Kyriakou 
Robert LaFountain 
Robert Langelius, Sf. 
Brad Lemna 
Robert E.  Lidster 
Simon Lind 
Redlands, CA 
Burnsville, MN
Rio Vista, CA 
Barrington, lL
Molina, CO 
Amaroussion, Greece 
Brandon, VT 
White Plains, NY 
Fort Wayne, IN 
Buena Park, CA 
Epsom Downs, Surrey, England 
Robert E. Little  Pelham, NH 
Patricia Logan  Longview, TX 
James F.  Mara  Phoenix, AZ 
William R. Maslin  Starkville, MS 
Fred H.  Meyling  Mulberry, FL 
Thomas Monteith  Pompano Beach, FL 
John A. Morris  Phoenix, AZ 
Louis E . Neal  Madison, MS 
John C.  Norman  Newport News, V A 
Patricia L.  Osbakken  Burlington, WI 
AI Packard  Bainbridge Island, W A 
Gene Papet  Cincinnati,OH 
Kenneth E. Pate  Monterey, TN 
Leslie V. Perry  Phoenix, AZ
Michael Planchak  Dayton, OR 
Robert G.  Ragozzino  Norman, OK 
Harold B. Rice  Barrington, lL
Harold S.  Roberts  Spartanburg, SC 
James W.  Rosen  Eugene, OR 
Michael Sabin  Virginia Beach, V A 
William T. Sampson III Springfield, V A 
Gary Scheller  Oshkosh, WI 
Jack Schneider  Lincolnwood, IL 
Robert Schunk  Westhampton Beach, NY 
Michael Schwa bauer  Monticello, IL
Larry W. Seigler  Sugar Land, TX 
Louis S. Shanley  West Palm Beach, FL 
Joe Sills  Cedar Park, TX 
Roy L.  Skelton  Double Oak, TX 
Paul Solomon  Glencoe, IL 
Scot Stambaugh  San Diego, CA 
William C.  Steier  Eagan, MN
Richard K.  Stewart  Bath, PA 
Michael L.  Straley  Scottsdale, AZ 
John J. Sucich  Chicago,IL 
Theodore Sean Tavares  Andover, MA
James H. Thomason ill Charlotte, NC 
William L.  Tillman  Virginia Beach, V A 
David W. Tobey  Mesa, AZ 
B.  L. Wade  Coffeyville, KS 
J. D.  Wa.rd  Kremmling, CO 
Mark Warner  Preston, CT 
Patrick Warren  Portland, OR 
David L.  Wells  Phoenix, AZ 
Jim Wilcox  Eau Claire, WI 
David E.  Witzel  Baytown, TX 
James O. Wolf  Roanoke, IN 
William Olds Yeazell  Springfield,OH 
Ruth Young  Altamonte Springs, FL 
Joseph M.  Zaleski  Norwalk, OH 
William J. Zorc  Vero Beach, FL 
Fly-In    
The following list of coming evellts is furnished to
our readers as a matter of illformatioll ollly alld
does 1I0t cOllstitute approval, spollsorship, illvolve-
ment, cOlllrol or direction of any evellt (fly-ill, sem-
inars, fly market, etc.) listed. Please selld the illfor-
mation to EAA, All: Golda Cox, P.O. Box ..lIIIIIiiiollliiii.llil_--
Oshkosh, WI 54903-3086. Information should be
receivedfour mOllths prior to the event date.
DECEMBER 9  - PUNTA  GORDA,  FL  - EAA  Chapter  565 
Pancake Breakfast Fly-In.  813/575-6360. 
FEBRUARY 10, 1996 - MERRITT ISLAND, FL - Merritt Is-
land  airport.  Aviation Day ' 96, sponsored by  Alpha Eta Rho, 
Sigma  Alpha chapter, Florida  Institute of Technology.  Air-
craft  rides  and  tours with  F.I.T.' s NIFA precision  flight  team, 
the  Falcons,  as  well  as  landing and  bomb drop competitions. 
Call 407/242-4949 for  more info. 
FEBRUARY 24-25 - MINNEAPOLIS, MN  - Minnesota Sport 
Aviation  Conference  and  Flight  Expo,  Minneapolis 
Convention  Center,  9 a.m.  - 10  p.m.  Saturday,  9  a.m.  - 6  p.m. 
Sunday.  Aviation  speakers, exhibits, workshops.  Sponsored 
by  the  Minn.  Office  of Aeronautics, FAA and  Minnesota  pilot 
groups and associations.  Call  612/296-8202. 
26 DECEMBER 1995
MARCH 1-3 - CASA GRANDE, AZ - 38th Annual Cactus 
Fly-In, sponsored by the  Arizona  Antique Aircraft Associ a-
tion.  For more information call John Engle 602/830-9670 for 
more information. 
MARCH 6-7 - NASHVILLE, TN - Tennessee  Mid-South  Avi-
ation Maintenance Seminar.  Contact TN Dept. of Trans. , Of-
fice  of Aeronautics, P.O.  Box 17326, Nashville, TN 37217.  Call 
615/741-3208. 
APRIL 14-20 - LAKELAND, FL - 22nd  Annual Sun  'n Fun 
EAA Fly-In and Convention.  813/644-2431. 
AUGUST 1-7 - OSHKOSH, WI  - 44th Annual EAA Fly-In 
and Sport  Aviation Convention.  Wittman  Regi onal Airport. 
Contact John  Burton, EAA, P.O.  Box 3086,  Oshkosh, WI 
54903-3086.  414/426-4800. 
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Recognizing the  60th  Anniversary of the  famous  Canadian  bushplane and WWII utility transport rated by Peter 
C.  Masefield in  7943  as  "in  a class  by itself' among the  world's  top 20 aircraft.  Commemorating the anniversary 
gathering of 76  of these  Vintage aircraft at Red  Lake,  Ontario,  Norseman  Capital of the  World,  in july,  7995. 

COMMEMORATIVE SILVER  COIN - $775.00 US. 
COMMEMORATIVE NBS COIN - $8.00 US. 
NORSEMAN  FLOATPLANE  FESTIVAL  POSTER  - $9.00 US. 
NORSEMAN  FLOATPLANE  FESTIVAL  VIDEO - $24.95 US. 
Please send cheque or money order to: 
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All  prices  include Shipping &  Handling.  Canadian  Residents  add  30% exchange and  7% G.5.T. 
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MEMBERSHIP 
INFORMATION 
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EAA
Membership  in  the  Experimental  Aircraft 
Association,  Inc.  is $35 for one year,  including  12 
issues of SPORT AVIATION.  Family membership 
is available for an additional $10 annually.  Junior 
Membership  (under  19 years of age)  is available 
at $20 annually.  All major credit cards accepted 
for membership. 
ANTIQUE/CLASSIC
Current  EAA  members  may  join  the  Antique/ 
Classic Division  and  receive  VINTAGE  AIR-
PLANE magazine for an additional $27per year. 
EAA  Membership,  VINTAGE AIRPLANE mag-
azine  and  one  year  membership  in  the  EAA 
Antique/Classic  Division  is  available  for  $37 per 
year (SPORT AVIATION magazine not included). 
lAC
Current EAA  members may join  the  Intemational 
Aerobatic Club,  Inc.  Division and receive SPORT 
AEROBATICS  magazine  for  an  additional $35 
per year. 
EAA  Membership, SPORT AEROBATICS maga-
zine  and  one  year  membership  in  the  lAC 
Division  is  available  for  $45 per year (SPORT 
AVIATION magazine not included). 
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Current  EAA  members  may  join  the  EAA 
Warbirds  of America  Division  and receive  WAR-
BIRDS magazine for an additional $30 per year. 
EAA  Membership,  WARBIRDS  magazine  and 
one year membership in  the  Warbirds  Division is
available  for  $40 per year  (SPORT AVIATION 
magazine not included). 
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Current  EAA  members  may  receive  EAA 
EXPERIMENTER magazine for an additional $18 
per year. 
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magazine  is available  for  $28 per year (SPORT 
AVIATION magazine not included). 
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draft  drawn  on  a United  States  bank  payable  in 
United  States dollars.  Add $13 postage  for 
SPORT AVIATION magazine  and/or $6 postage 
for any of the other magazines. 
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OSHKOSH,  WI 54903-3086 
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Something to buy, sell or trade? An inexpensive ad in the Vintage Trader may be
just the answer to obtaining that elusive part. .40¢ per word, $6.00 minimum
charge. Send your ad and payment to: Vintage Trader, fAA Aviation Center, P.O.
Box 3086, Oshkosh, WI 54903-3086, or fax your ad and your VISA or MasterCard
number to 414/426-4828. Ads must be received by the 20th of the month for
insertion in the issue the second month following (e.g., October 20th for the
December issue.)
AIRPLANES
1909 Antoinette Replica - Just com-
pleted, except fabric not installed.
Structure redesigned to FAA require-
ments. $100K. Brochure available.
Marshall Wood. 916/483-8055. (12-1)
1946 Taylorcraft BC12- D - N44161,
immaculately restored inside and out.
Everything's like new! Flys as fast as a
C-152 at a fraction of the cost to buy,
maintain and operate. Fly fun, fly thrifty,
fly a CLASSIC! Only $14,900. Phone
505/662-4076 for details. (12-1)
MISCELLANEOUS
Restoring an Aeronca 65CAlLB? - I
have complete Parts List and Drawing
Lists. Call 414/425-3618 or send SASE
for list and prices to Gores, 12008 Belmar
Drive, Franklin, WI 53132. (12-1)
Ultraflight Magazine - Hear our "FAST
ACTION CLASSIFIEDS. " Call 1-800-411-
0042. Buy, sell, trade, kit built , fixed
wing , powered parachutes, rotor,
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Stories galore! Sample issue $3 .00.
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Ultraflight Magazine, 12545 70th Street,
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Plans - Ragwing Replicas - Ultralight
legal Pietenpol, Pitts, Heath, Church
Midwing. Plans $70. Brochure $3. 312
Gilstrap Drive, Liberty, SC 29657. (9/96)
SUPER CUB PA-18 FUSELAGES -
New manufacture, STC-PMA- d, 4130
chromoly tubing throughout, also com-
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406/388-0170. Repair station No.
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(NEW) This & That About the Ercoupe,
$14.00. Fly-About Adventures & the
Ercoupe, $17.95. Both books, $25.00.
Fly-About, P.O. Box 51144, Denton,
Texas 76206. (ufn)
Popular Aviation Magazines 1933
through 1938 - Send SASE for price
and details. C. Crutcher, 14811 Redbud
Lane, Woodstock, IL 60098. (12-1)
Flying Field - by James Haynes, AlC
12099. A saga of an airport from 1921-
1995. 133 photographs - ancient air-
planes - the works. An excellent
Christmas gift. $19.00. Mail to Robins
Nest Company, 21 Sunset Lane,
Bushnell,IL 61422-9739. (12-1)
FREE CATALOG - Aviation books
and videos. How to, building and
restoration tips, historic, flying and
entertainment titles. Call for a free cat-
alog. EAA, 1-800-843-3612.
Curtiss JN4-D Memorabilia - You
can now own memorabilia from the
famous Curtiss " Jenny," as seen on
"TREASURES FROM THE PAST." We
have T-shirts, posters, postcards,
videos, pins, airmail cachets, etc. We
also have R/C documentation exclu-
sive to this historic aircraft . Sale of
these items supports operating
expenses to keep this "Jenny" flying
for the aviation public. We appreciate
your help. Send SASE to Virginia
Aviation, P.O. Box 3365, Warrenton,
VA 22186. (ufn)
WANTED
Wanted - Vintage Project, 1949. Details
to: Blue Island Aviation, 13436 Compton
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(Above)  The  Ant ique/Classic sport shirt looks great whether at 
the  airport or the golf links.  Made of 100% combed  colorfast cot-
ton,  it is  avai lable  in  royal  blue with  tea l trim,  fuschia  with blue 
trim  and  black with fuschia  trim. 
Si zes  M-2Xl .• .. •.. . .. . ... . .•. . . . ••• .. .•.. . . ..$28.95* 
(Right)  This pinstripe oxford shirt  is  as  classic  as  the  airplane you 
fly.  Antique/Classic  logo  is  embroidered above the pocket.  Made 
from  a high  quality 60/40 cotton/poly blend.  Available with bur-
gundyor blue stripes.  Short sleeve only. 
Si ze  15 - 171/2  . . .. • .... ...•• . . . .•.....•.....•$23.95* 
To order or for more information call:
1-800-843-3612 
(Outside the US and Canada 414-426-4800)
24 hour FAX:  414-426-4873 
or write EAA, Dept. MO, P.O. Box 3086,
Oshkosh, WI 54903-3086
Major credit cards  accepted.  *WI residents  add  5% 
sales  tax.  *Plus shipping and  handling. 
(Above)  This sturdy natural  cotton duck baseball cap 
has  a brown  leather brim and  the  colorful  (blue,  hunter 
green  or maroon) NC logo.  One size  fits  all,  adjustable 
leather strap .....••......••......•.....$12.00* 
(Above,  Left)  You'll  be warm and  toasty with your 
fl eece  shi rt/jacket, trimmed  with  the  NC logo.  100% 
polyester Polartec®,  it has  zippered  slash  pockets and  a 
zippered  cowl  neck.  It's  available in  navy blue. 
Sizes M -2Xl  . ..•••. . ..•.•••.. ... •••...$52.95* 
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 31 
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(Above) You'll be covered front to back w ith your favorite Antique,
Classic and Contemporary airplanes on these bright 100% pre-shrunk
cotton T-shirts. Each is topped off with the NC logo on the sleeve.
Availabl e in these pastel colors: cream, fuschia, blue, green and orange.
Sizes S-2Xl ...•.•••............•..................$15.95*
(Above, left) Keep warm with this thi ck fleece-lined sweatshirt neatly
embroidered with the Antique/Classic logo. Made of a 70/30 cotton/poly
bl end. Cowl neck, white with black and gold logo, grey trim.
Sizes M-2Xl .......•....•............•....•........$33.95*
(Left) Just right for those warm summer afternoons spent at the air-
(Ri ght) The 100% pre-shrunk
cotton ribbed scoop neck tee
is fem inine yet casual. It also
features the NC logo embroi-
dered in a glossy thread in the
same co lor, and is ava il able in
blue or rose .
Sizes S-l . .........$12.95*
port, the scoop neck 100% pre-shrunk cotton tee features the
embroidered Antique/Classi c logo in the shirt color. Available in
li ght green or cranberry.
Sizes S-l •..•......•......•... • ..•.............$12.95*
(Below, ri ght) If you need a littl e more warmth (say, when you're
doing a littl e open cockpit flying!) you'll need the Antique/Classic
hooded sweatshirt. Availabl e in oatmeal fl eece with accent stripes
of burgundy, navy blue and forest green on the shoulders . Made of
a 70/30 cotton/ poly bl end. Blue and burgundy NC logo.
Sizes M-2Xl ............................ . •.....$38.95*
(Left) The Antique/Classic
Division' s colors have never
been bri ghter! Made of
100% pre-shrunk cotton, the
A/e golf shirt is ava ilable in
jade green, turquoise, navy
blue and cranberry, with
matching color logo.
Sizes M-2Xl ...•••26.95*
ORDfRNOW!
32 NOVEMBER 1995
(Above)  This  heavy,  fleece  lined sweat shirt  has  the 
EAA  Antique/Classic  logo embroidered  with  silver, 
forest green  and  metall ic gold  stitching.  You'll 
enjoy the warmth  and  comfort of this  long-wearing, 
machine washable,  50/50 cotton/polyester shirt. 
Size M-2XL  . . ... .. . . . ...... ... . ....$32.95* 
(Right)  Keep  the  essential  tools  ready  with this 
heavy canvas  tool  roll.  Features  14  pockets for 
wrenches,  screw drivers,  pliers or any other tool 
you'll  never want to  be  without. 
(tools  not included)  . ... .... . .. . . .. ...$12.00* 
(Above)  Embroidered  caps  have 
Antique/Classic  logo stitched  in  metal-
lic gold  thread.  Poly  blend  fabric  and 
broad  brims  make these  hats  comfort-
able and  durable.  One size  fits  all. 
Avai lable  in  teal  or blue with  red  brim . 
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  $10.95* 
(Right)  10 oz.  ceramic  mug shows 
the  logo of the  Antique/Classic divi-
sion.  Dishwasher safe.  . . . ..$8.95* 
(Left)  No flight bag  should  be  without a Mini Maglite.  Uses 
two AAA batteries  and  can  be  adj usted  from  spot  to  flood 
with  a twist of the  wrist.  Available  in  green,  blue,  black or 
red  with  Antique/Classic  logo ................$19.95* 
(Lower  left)  Compact  barrel bag  is  made from  heavy can-
vas  and  is  the  perfect size.  Measures  12" x  7" and  features 
the  Antique/Classic  logo.  . . .. . .. ... . ...... .  $10.00* 
(Below)  This  lightweight jacket is  perfect for  the  flight  line 
or the  golf course.  100% nylon shell.  Machine washable. 
Available in  navy,  teal,  eggplant and  forest  green. 
Si zes  M-XL  $34.95  2XL  ...... • . . ... .. . ... . $36.95* 
VINTAGE AIRPLANE 33 

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