WashU Conference Notes

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Med conference

Madison-
-75% in state
-loves public health

Ohio state
-50% out of state
-2nd year can be Ohio resident, less tuition

Iowa
-has dual degree program in public health

Crieghton
-private, Jesuit
-Omaha
-likes other Jesuit students!!

Loyola
-Jesuit
-treat the human spirit
-diverse patient population
-holistic approach
-"hug and kick philosophy"
-SERVICE

Well rounded applicant
-Holistic review-balanced review of influences, attributes, and grades
-research leadership service (Ohio state)
-shadow!!!!!! (Crieghton dude)
-don't shadow relatives
-volunteer!!!! Do something for others (Madison lady)

Gap year
-get more of what you don't have
-strengthen grades if necessary postbac programs
-international exposure
-be prepared to discuss what you've done with that year in an interview setting
-doesn't have to be medical, give to others (Iowa)
-not a negative to take a year off(Washu)

Number of hours for everything
-don't do just one thing but don't do everything
-service from the heart
-two categories of service and work (medical and non), Iowa says "if you don't do either we won't
even consider you"

Madison lady-it's personal, not a check in the box, "don't be a box checker we frown on that"

Ohio state-be able to say what you learned, how you felt after experience, communicate in
personal statement and interview; keep a journal! Give yourself a report card, see where you
could be stronger

Crieghton-(interview questions)asked where are you gonna be in 5/10 years, she said "volunteers
in er, loves the rush of it, but she said that she didn't like she didn't know where her patients went,
wants a follow up"

Student asked about the boards, Loyola shut him down like "have you even been in med school",
"be a better person, not just a better doctor", you're not supposed to know what kinda doctor you
wanna be, you just wanna serve, y'all aren't in med school yet

Madison-"we have a vested interest in you, we committed to you if accepted"; with an mph, place
out of epidemiology course..MADISON LOVES PUBLIC HEALTH IT'S ALL UP IN THEIR
CURRICULUM

Crieghton-we like masters students!!!! Potential student leaders

Research
-really critical that you understand it and can explain it
-know the main purpose of the lab!! --Global perspective on the research
-Ohio state "we have students talk about some assay they were running and not know what the
actual research is"

Application process:
Don't:
-Ohio: number one mistake apply to a lot of schools!! 15 or more MINIMUM!! Personal statement
is huge, know WHY you wanna be a doctor
-Washu: answer ALL questions on application, follow basic directions, be prepared to talk about
yourself in interviews, look at your app before the interview cause that's all fair game
-Crieghton: so easy for us to pull your app up during an interview, be ready, sometimes
secondary statement don't just write like a sentence specific to school, don't just retype our
website mission
-Madison: please get it reviewed, GRAMMAR, seriously no typos, integrity do not lie to us!!!!
Don't lie about hours we know when you're exaggerating
-Iowa: how to add to the diversity of the class (usually extra question on app), dont be dumb and
mix up schools on an app, how do you stand out?? How do you add to the class? What makes
you special? Lol Iowa is a lil bit hick y'all
-Loyola: your app is all we have before the interview, give us the most info as possible, your
experiences matter, SECONDARY APP VERY IMPORTANT WE LOOK THAT FIRST
SOMETIMES, not all your experiences have to medically related!! Anything you do that matters

Medicine is a Marathon
(Done by lady from northwestern)
"Don't let the doubts of others the dreams you set for yourself"
"Know your own worth and abilities"
"Be quick but don't hurry"
Personal letter of rec!
YOU DON'T GET A REDO WITH GRADES amcas will just average everything; don't shop
around campuses?
Read instruction manual for amcas, be detail orientated!
WHY DO YOU WANNA BE A DOCTOR interrogation of self
Include personal statement to request to rec letter writers
Don't take mcat without full year of physics

MCAT
-5hr
-CANNOT WITHHOLD SCORES FROM AMCAS
-max 3x
-make sure the date you register for is what you want
"If you cannot grasp a body of information in one stroke and take a test we doubt your abilities"
aka take it once
Example: student gets a 21 takes it again gets a 31, average of 26 dean says "shouldn't have
done that, I don't know which is the fluke"
-right now trial section instead of writing
-don't just count on your strengths, if you're good at verbal bad at physical practice physical!!
-don't take practice tests to be your motivation sectional study is much much better!! Like do
verbal or biological instead of always a whole test because if you do bad you'll be down wont
study if you do good then you'll be like I'm smart I don't need to do this

GPA
-it is a gate keeper "won't get you in but will keep you out"
-repeats averaged, don't take a class twice
-we look at trends
***seriously read amcas instruction, know what counts in your math science gpa
-in postbac, med school treat that GPA differently same with masters, last 30 years heavily
looked at

Extracurricular
-know why you did something
-don't fake enthusiasm
-know what makes you unique, be passionate
-don't feel boxed in!
-be a leader
-engage in local service!!! Not just global is important

Rec letters
-when you ask for a letter "can you write me a strong letter of recommendation for medical
school?" If they hesitate or initially say no WALK AWAY they did you a favor
-no generic letters!!!!
-prepare portfolio for the writer when the time comes (resume personal statement upload
instructions cover letter)
-start requesting early!!
-more specific the better!

-5 from your top, 5 from middle, 5 more middle
-15 min app
-yes this is expensive
-know the application pool who sends specific secondary apps who doesn't how many apply etc

Email/voice mail
-get one just for med school
-not necessarily your school email
-be professional when creating one
-voice mail should be something that a dean of a med school could hear
-beware of fb Instagram errythang

-consider out of state apps, smaller applicant pool
-committee is negative with you, don't use it
-quality over speed doesn't have to be June 1
-do not take a class again, just move on only if you got a D or below
-YOUR GPA IN AMCAS WILL BE LOWER THAN YOUR SCHOOLS GPA AMCAS USES A
FORMULA TO EQUALIZE IT ALL
-use amcas gpa calculator!!!!!
-NO RELATIVES IN YOUR APPLICATION

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